C3 powersports Carbon fiber snowbike??
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Yep there was one there. Looked like a normal tunnel from a sled. Kind of ugly actually !! IMO The Mountain Horse looked way better and they were side by side. It did save 20-30 lbs though. But for 10 G's i'll keep the 20-30 lbs !!
I agree I thought it was butt ugly too.
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Pics?
Any Pics of the C3?
Any Pics of the C3?
Sorry guys I never took any pictures of it either. One of my buddies just loved it !! I'm not sure if he liked the weight savings or the tunnel. I'll ask him for more info and see what he comes back with.
A lot of people are on the CARBON FIBER kick and feel anything carbon fiber must be the ticket. But for me I need to like what i'm riding both for performance and eye appeal or i'm not buying it !!
A lot of people are on the CARBON FIBER kick and feel anything carbon fiber must be the ticket. But for me I need to like what i'm riding both for performance and eye appeal or i'm not buying it !!
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these are from the Edmonton show. c3 did look pretty cool but I lifted both the a c3 and the timbersled kit and didn't notice a difference. I could be wrong tho. Good too see a belt drive tho!
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Yup. Thought I wanted one till I seen these pics. Yikes.
i think its pretty slick looking.
and the fully closed tunnel might help keep the iceberg off the rear of the motor intake area which is a BIG plus IMO. i know on my homebuilds, anything i could do to keep the rear of the motor from being hosed down with snow was majorly beneficial to intake cleanliness and motor temp.
and the fully closed tunnel might help keep the iceberg off the rear of the motor intake area which is a BIG plus IMO. i know on my homebuilds, anything i could do to keep the rear of the motor from being hosed down with snow was majorly beneficial to intake cleanliness and motor temp.
One guy we ride with did a cover out of 1/8 inch teflon impregnate plastic works perfect way less ice build up and no issues He left the sides open so it will not build up pressure and rob power -- that is the issue with a closed Tunnel.
As long as there is enough space it is a non issue.
As long as there is enough space it is a non issue.
Hi guys,
We been flat out in the shop for a few months now, so not been on Snowest in an easy 2 months..lol
We will have much more on the YETI info in the near future, it all has been going great!
Lots of projects, tweaking final build lists, colors, specs and tweaking a few parts.
We will be going to demonstrate and show all models of the YETI at the hill climb event at Silver Start mountain in Vernon, April 10 & 11th. All are welcome to come see and ride, and talk snow bikes.
On the enclosed tunnel design, you are correct powdermuncher, the enclosed keeps the light light fluffy snow off the bike intake.
To relieve the pressure build of the track going into the tunnel which robs a lot of HP, track design is also a factor, you need to have an air channel between the paddles for the air pressure "build" to release.
On top of that on the YETI we have build a 1" kick at the front of the tunnel on both sides right near the drive shaft. You will see the step in the picture. This allows the air pressure from the track to exit out the side of the tunnel. It is our "air relieve system", so you don't loose power due to pressure.
Your comments are correct on tunnel pressure and HP loss. We are tuned into maximizing your bikes efficiency at YETI Snow MX, you won't be disappointed.
The results of the last few rides will blow you away.
There is not a straight up chute anywhere that a sled can go that the YETI can't! We need a new level of riders who can pull this stuff, it's getting to over the top for us now. 75mph straight up chutes in a 5th gear wheelie is back to our old hilclimber turbo1200 Arctic Cat days...lol
Thanks!
C3 Powersports
YETI Snow MX
We been flat out in the shop for a few months now, so not been on Snowest in an easy 2 months..lol
We will have much more on the YETI info in the near future, it all has been going great!
Lots of projects, tweaking final build lists, colors, specs and tweaking a few parts.
We will be going to demonstrate and show all models of the YETI at the hill climb event at Silver Start mountain in Vernon, April 10 & 11th. All are welcome to come see and ride, and talk snow bikes.
On the enclosed tunnel design, you are correct powdermuncher, the enclosed keeps the light light fluffy snow off the bike intake.
To relieve the pressure build of the track going into the tunnel which robs a lot of HP, track design is also a factor, you need to have an air channel between the paddles for the air pressure "build" to release.
On top of that on the YETI we have build a 1" kick at the front of the tunnel on both sides right near the drive shaft. You will see the step in the picture. This allows the air pressure from the track to exit out the side of the tunnel. It is our "air relieve system", so you don't loose power due to pressure.
Your comments are correct on tunnel pressure and HP loss. We are tuned into maximizing your bikes efficiency at YETI Snow MX, you won't be disappointed.
The results of the last few rides will blow you away.
There is not a straight up chute anywhere that a sled can go that the YETI can't! We need a new level of riders who can pull this stuff, it's getting to over the top for us now. 75mph straight up chutes in a 5th gear wheelie is back to our old hilclimber turbo1200 Arctic Cat days...lol
Thanks!
C3 Powersports
YETI Snow MX
I want to see this 75 mph up chutes you are talking about. Like the vids I see sleds do where I sit back and say "nope?" I'm in the market for a track for my cr500, and if the kms proves to have a solid turbo kit for it, I want the track I pick up to be great now and in case I get a turbo. Although I had been leaning towards a '16 SX, not the best for climbing but could have a lot of fun with it. I guess I would be curious to see how your hurricane turbo bike would fair on different terrain with the different tracks you offer.
I also noticed that front ski looks way aggressive, and the responsiveness looked extremely radical in some of your more recent videos. I'm glad you are working on the design, do you think it is because of the angle of the skii? the sort of upside down cupping shape? or would you be better off with it completely flat?
I also noticed that front ski looks way aggressive, and the responsiveness looked extremely radical in some of your more recent videos. I'm glad you are working on the design, do you think it is because of the angle of the skii? the sort of upside down cupping shape? or would you be better off with it completely flat?
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Thanks for the post.
Yes I can understand your skepticism. Seeing and riding makes up for a lot of blog chat. The 610 Turbo bikes are very strong with our kit. The snow now is more set up, but this past week we had 3 different 610 turbo guys out pulling lines they did not think possible, never mind what the sled guys thought who were watching.
All three guys agreed that 5th gear pulls are very fast and scary when going up chutes. The one guy has never had to fan his clutch since he switched to the YETI and the bikes stays on the pipe all the time easily. These guys are all big guys 250 plus with gear and backpacks on. Yes from what you know now it all sound like crap, I understand and appreciate that.
Most of this stuff no one who rides what is available today will believe it, so we not posting this stuff. After you see it that's different.
The 16SX kit would be lots of fun for sure, I loved my 14 SX and 15SX LT 137. But I have different thoughts now for sure. For ultimate travel and massive jumping you bet SX. But again drop lots of weight, free up lots of HP and the game changes.
The ski has been a whole learning/timing experience. We had many riders call and tell us we had it nailed. It was great on the trail and great in the powder. It worked great in the slush, then the rain and ice crust came. It was too aggressive. The same guys called back and went it's hard to ride now. A steering damper fixes it, but we need it to be right for all riders.
Why? The front of the ski is parabolic if you want to call it that. The front edges of the MAXKEEL curve outward, and they were 3" deep. It carves amazing, but when you feed it crusty snow, it would start to grab the hardest crust and you would go there. It was hard to ride until you we're on the power and the ski was lighter.
No ski will be perfect in all snow conditions. We CNC trim the ski to our specs anyhow, so we have moved the spindle mount ahead 2.25" and also trimmed off 1" off the outside edge in a 4 axis machine. Plus brought up the centre skag another 3" ahead. The guys who have been riding this now really like it, and we will be riding it another few weeks to make sure all are happy with it.
For a powder only ski, it's great as it was. Guys say we should offer 2 skis or 3 for all different snow conditions, hard to say at this time. We all would benefit from a better ski, even TS guys know that. But it is a costly adventure that we will keep working at.
We have not released the ski, and will not until we are really happy with it, and so are many other riders also approve of it.
The upside down cup is good, the ski really floats on very little snow. The front design were are happy with, we have learned a lot this year building 10+ ski's, trimming them 20+ different ways, and trying 5 centre skaggs, and 5 different side skags.
There is lots more on the ski, but we are still excited about it and will have it out, again when it is right.
The kits have changed a lot since the pictures a few posts above, so I attached some of the newer pics. We have built 4 generations of tunnels since then and and many revisions since 24 months ago.
And Derek in the picture is either a super body builder, the photo is edited to have the YETI float there, or it actually is a light 129" kit. You decide.
I don't believe in games.
Sincerely
C3 Powersports
YETI Snow MX
Thanks for the post.
Yes I can understand your skepticism. Seeing and riding makes up for a lot of blog chat. The 610 Turbo bikes are very strong with our kit. The snow now is more set up, but this past week we had 3 different 610 turbo guys out pulling lines they did not think possible, never mind what the sled guys thought who were watching.
All three guys agreed that 5th gear pulls are very fast and scary when going up chutes. The one guy has never had to fan his clutch since he switched to the YETI and the bikes stays on the pipe all the time easily. These guys are all big guys 250 plus with gear and backpacks on. Yes from what you know now it all sound like crap, I understand and appreciate that.
Most of this stuff no one who rides what is available today will believe it, so we not posting this stuff. After you see it that's different.
The 16SX kit would be lots of fun for sure, I loved my 14 SX and 15SX LT 137. But I have different thoughts now for sure. For ultimate travel and massive jumping you bet SX. But again drop lots of weight, free up lots of HP and the game changes.
The ski has been a whole learning/timing experience. We had many riders call and tell us we had it nailed. It was great on the trail and great in the powder. It worked great in the slush, then the rain and ice crust came. It was too aggressive. The same guys called back and went it's hard to ride now. A steering damper fixes it, but we need it to be right for all riders.
Why? The front of the ski is parabolic if you want to call it that. The front edges of the MAXKEEL curve outward, and they were 3" deep. It carves amazing, but when you feed it crusty snow, it would start to grab the hardest crust and you would go there. It was hard to ride until you we're on the power and the ski was lighter.
No ski will be perfect in all snow conditions. We CNC trim the ski to our specs anyhow, so we have moved the spindle mount ahead 2.25" and also trimmed off 1" off the outside edge in a 4 axis machine. Plus brought up the centre skag another 3" ahead. The guys who have been riding this now really like it, and we will be riding it another few weeks to make sure all are happy with it.
For a powder only ski, it's great as it was. Guys say we should offer 2 skis or 3 for all different snow conditions, hard to say at this time. We all would benefit from a better ski, even TS guys know that. But it is a costly adventure that we will keep working at.
We have not released the ski, and will not until we are really happy with it, and so are many other riders also approve of it.
The upside down cup is good, the ski really floats on very little snow. The front design were are happy with, we have learned a lot this year building 10+ ski's, trimming them 20+ different ways, and trying 5 centre skaggs, and 5 different side skags.
There is lots more on the ski, but we are still excited about it and will have it out, again when it is right.
The kits have changed a lot since the pictures a few posts above, so I attached some of the newer pics. We have built 4 generations of tunnels since then and and many revisions since 24 months ago.
And Derek in the picture is either a super body builder, the photo is edited to have the YETI float there, or it actually is a light 129" kit. You decide.
I don't believe in games.
Sincerely
C3 Powersports
YETI Snow MX
Thanks for the response. I see what you are talking about with the ski. I'm not too skeptic about it actually, I just really want to see it, so I can oooh and ahh over it, and of course truly believe what can be done by a bike. My second comment about the "nope" was more about I wouldn't touch that chute.
Your responses make your company sound like it has a good grasp of utilizing customer feedback to enhance your product. I look forward to hearing and seeing more. I just wish I could control conditions and test drive every option on my own bike. I still wonder if using a turbo on a short track ends up a bit of a waste vs using the long track, I'm sure you have tried both.
Your responses make your company sound like it has a good grasp of utilizing customer feedback to enhance your product. I look forward to hearing and seeing more. I just wish I could control conditions and test drive every option on my own bike. I still wonder if using a turbo on a short track ends up a bit of a waste vs using the long track, I'm sure you have tried both.
From riding sleds to snow bIke perspective..
Like the light weight of the bike and all the narrow places you can rip threw that sleds can't or side hills that are effortless for hrs..
But few things that I had thought the bikes really needed to get me in one..
First and for formost was power, sitting there shifting three or four times a pull was not my game and obouvious the bike needed much more hp..Also gearing in first was two high, and needed feathering to start... Shifting foot actually became sore by day's end
Never been on a turbo 610 but initial thouths of replacing motor with a 583 or 670 and using a cvt sled transmission would be up there..
Electric start a must, hand warmers, headlight another must, and a much larger fuel tank rather than adding fuel how many times a day..and finnally keeping cost down to where it's cheaper than a sled by a few grand
a ski in front where it would not wash out or nose dive in the deep was also a concern.. A track that was bigger than the 133inch, a three inch track that got you around eaiser..
Bike stability where you would not have to put feet down on every stop and be able to ballence in most snow conditions
Could be impossible to do everything on the wish list but what I had thought needed to be done for bikes
Like the light weight of the bike and all the narrow places you can rip threw that sleds can't or side hills that are effortless for hrs..
But few things that I had thought the bikes really needed to get me in one..
First and for formost was power, sitting there shifting three or four times a pull was not my game and obouvious the bike needed much more hp..Also gearing in first was two high, and needed feathering to start... Shifting foot actually became sore by day's end
Never been on a turbo 610 but initial thouths of replacing motor with a 583 or 670 and using a cvt sled transmission would be up there..
Electric start a must, hand warmers, headlight another must, and a much larger fuel tank rather than adding fuel how many times a day..and finnally keeping cost down to where it's cheaper than a sled by a few grand
a ski in front where it would not wash out or nose dive in the deep was also a concern.. A track that was bigger than the 133inch, a three inch track that got you around eaiser..
Bike stability where you would not have to put feet down on every stop and be able to ballence in most snow conditions
Could be impossible to do everything on the wish list but what I had thought needed to be done for bikes
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Sounds like a mono ski snowmobile.