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suitcase
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Yes for sure, I will go with the Holtz rear skid. They are a little more but I think they will hold up a bit longer.
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Yes for sure, I will go with the Holtz rear skid. They are a little more but I think they will hold up a bit longer.
A bit longer than what??
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suitcase
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From what Ive sean of the holtz they have a fairly long life under some hard riding. Have talked to people that have the timbersled and it seams that they need a tune up every season. This is not of any personal exp. on the timber sled, but i'm not liking what I have herd.
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You should do your shocks and "tune up" all your suspension every year. Your gonna have a turbo Poo now, you got to keep that thing cherry!
I've run Holz Skids in 3 of my previous sleds...Their stuff is well made, no doubt about it.
That being said, I have broken my Holz skid in the past... front torque arm and transfer rods...granted, I abused the sled through drastic rider error and poor skills.
I've also personally seen EZ-Ryde and other skids that broke during extreme use.
Erin Bukelman runs a Holz Alpha in his RMHSHA sleds... they hold up to the punishment well... but parts are replaced from time to time.
I've ridden with Chris Burandt and Dan Adams... both have the T-sled and run it without issues..Same for Rob Hoff, Dan Gardiner, Dan Davidoff and many of the Team Thunderstruck riders... They go WAY bigger than most riders I've seen... they don't seem to be complaining about durability. Sure they've broken parts... but they were doing some pretty extreme things when this happened.
Some of the early Mtn. Tamers had some issues... but the 09 &10 season skids and into the '11 season do not seem to be experiencing the same problems.
In the end, I don't believe that the Holz or Timbersled is more durable than the other... Different character yes... but durability with recent Alphas or Mtn Tamers...Not IMO.
In the end, I think you will be very happy with your Holz skid...Mark makes some awesome products!!
My 2 cents.
That being said, I have broken my Holz skid in the past... front torque arm and transfer rods...granted, I abused the sled through drastic rider error and poor skills.
I've also personally seen EZ-Ryde and other skids that broke during extreme use.
Erin Bukelman runs a Holz Alpha in his RMHSHA sleds... they hold up to the punishment well... but parts are replaced from time to time.
I've ridden with Chris Burandt and Dan Adams... both have the T-sled and run it without issues..Same for Rob Hoff, Dan Gardiner, Dan Davidoff and many of the Team Thunderstruck riders... They go WAY bigger than most riders I've seen... they don't seem to be complaining about durability. Sure they've broken parts... but they were doing some pretty extreme things when this happened.
Some of the early Mtn. Tamers had some issues... but the 09 &10 season skids and into the '11 season do not seem to be experiencing the same problems.
In the end, I don't believe that the Holz or Timbersled is more durable than the other... Different character yes... but durability with recent Alphas or Mtn Tamers...Not IMO.
In the end, I think you will be very happy with your Holz skid...Mark makes some awesome products!!
My 2 cents.
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not the same as the 08 skids. i put over 3000 miles on my skid durring the 08-09 season with no bushing issues, and then just under 2000 miles last year with no bushing issues again, no issues at all for that matter. the main cause of bushing issues on the t-sled skids is lack of maintenance, there are grease zerks on every shaft for a reason. they need to be consistantly greased to keep good lubrication, i grease mine before every ride and a lot of guys just do it every weekend. not doing so will lead to sooner bushing failure, as well as using a cheap grease that is not designed to work in cold temps will do so also. My only hick up with the mtn tamer skid was my own fault, trying to get a good shot of a jump i hit it about 10 times landing fairly close to the same spot and the last time falling about 30 feet out of the air to flat on hard pack snow, in doing so i compressed my back hard enough that i spent the next few weeks at the chiropractor. i bent the rear torque arm upper shaft, and the guys at timbersled were great about it, helped me out at a discounted price even though it was completely my fault.
The bushings and slide-shafts were upgraded last season.
With proper maint, I had ZERO problems on my sled.
Like kinzer said, if you don't maintain your skid... especially when you are riding hard (like most people who invest in a high perf skid do)... then you will experience issues with ANY brand of skid.
From what I can tell, there were very few bushing problems with the new slider mechanism unless they were run dry... or, on early steel sliders, allowed to rust.
Regardless of what skid you run... IMO... durning the summer... dissassemble it... clean all the shafts and bores, check for cracks/bending... new grease (I prefer the high quality Red Line CV-2 full synth grease for it's temperature stability).. Make sure to REGULARLY grease and check tightness. Rebuild the shocks every season and you will have a sled that won't let you down (at least not the suspension)
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So I am guessing that the problems people encounter are more than likely from lack of maintance. I Don't grease every ride by any means, it is more likely 3 times a month. But I use a lithium base grease that we use on the slope that is good to 40 below. I must say this will be my first complete aftermarket rear skid, so there are alot of unknowns to me. I just try to get all the info I can so not to have any regrets after the sled is done, ( I wish I would have done this instead of this, type of thing ) . I know myself, if this sled does not preform like I want it too, I will be pissed. I want it to be rider error not machine error. LOL
