bush's war??? good vid!

[justadude]

Thanks MR. Facts

well, thanks to our Senate Democrats, we will not be seeing that oil, as they intervened and implored the Iraqi government to NOT award any contracts before they had a "Hydrocarbon law" in place...So we pass on our alignment with the greenies, and it costs us oil and infrastructure on the world marketplace...

Come on people wake up and put the blame where it belongs...in this case...these three democrat senators...oh and dont forget Obama is further to the left than these guys...

Senators Schumer, McCaskill, and Kerry

couple key quotes in case it is toolong to read for others...



oh and I bet most have not heard that Barrack Obama asked the Iraqi Minister to hold off on Strategic framework discussions to end violence and work on troop transfer until AFTER the elections!!!! Yes, the Messiah conducting foreign policy and guiding foreign political leaders with ZERO standing in which to do so...me thinks he might have got himself in trouble on this one!!

Will be interesting to see how this gains momentum link <---

 

[MTdream]

Food for oil campaign, who gets the food and who gets the oil?

I assume your referring to the UN oil for food deal...

Major beneficiaries include: Russia, France,

which was initiated and further supported by Bill Clinton, and which was proven to have had Money from it to be laundered through Al Qaeda money brokers...but none of that is brought up in the media...(and yes I used Fox news source just to tickle a few peoples fancy

Oh well, ignorance is bliss...

 

[ruffryder]

well, thanks to our Senate Democrats, we will not be seeing that oil, as they intervened and implored the Iraqi government to NOT award any contracts before they had a "Hydrocarbon law" in place...So we pass on our alignment with the greenies, and it costs us oil and infrastructure on the world marketplace...

Come on people wake up and put the blame where it belongs...in this case...these three democrat senators...oh and dont forget Obama is further to the left than these guys...

Senators Schumer, McCaskill, and Kerry

couple key quotes in case it is toolong to read for others...



oh and I bet most have not heard that Barrack Obama asked the Iraqi Minister to hold off on Strategic framework discussions to end violence and work on troop transfer until AFTER the elections!!!! Yes, the Messiah conducting foreign policy and guiding foreign political leaders with ZERO standing in which to do so...me thinks he might have got himself in trouble on this one!!

Will be interesting to see how this gains momentum link <---

You need to stop posting references to that opinion article.... it has lots taken out of context, and I don't think you understand what they were trying to do..... It had NOTHING to do with the environment, it was about where the money goes, and the fact that Iraq doesn't have a law about it yet. I think most countries that have nationalized oil have these laws.....

The argument was that a law for the Iraqi's was to be passed (originally supported by Bush) so that when it came time for money to come, it would be a simple process. Now they are all going to be fighting over the money, further reducing the Iraqi people to act as a united entity......

 

[ruffryder]

Thanks MR. Facts

Ahhhhhh Crappp........

 

[MTdream]

You need to stop posting references to that opinion article.... it has lots taken out of context, and I don't think you understand what they were trying to do..... It had NOTHING to do with the environment, it was about where the money goes, and the fact that Iraq doesn't have a law about it yet. I think most countries that have nationalized oil have these laws.....

The argument was that a law for the Iraqi's was to be passed (originally supported by Bush) so that when it came time for money to come, it would be a simple process. Now they are all going to be fighting over the money, further reducing the Iraqi people to act as a united entity......

Sorry, forgot I was in Ruffy's world and forgot to ask permission about what to post...

Fact: Iraq has a law about oil royalty sharing already in place...So this little stunt was just that, and a stunt to take a shot at "big oil" during an election year...and throw some mud around about "no bid" contracts...and trying to throw this in the face to garner votes...

Additionally, the Iraqi governement communicated there was nothing to be worried about, in fact supported the award of the bids...and you know what...violence and chaos has not ensued since signing of the deal with China...

 

[ruffryder]

Fact: Iraq has a law about oil royalty sharing already in place...So this little stunt was just that, and a stunt to take a shot at "big oil" during an election year...and throw some mud around about "no bid" contracts...and trying to throw this in the face to garner votes...

Ummm, from what I have read, it is not a fact there is no law in place...

Additionally, the Iraqi governement communicated there was nothing to be worried about, in fact supported the award of the bids...and you know what...violence and chaos has not ensued since signing of the deal with China...

Deal with China? There were deals with international companies, all who could bid.... I didn't expect there to be violence and chaos without the law, just that it will be harder to pass a (hydrocarbon) law, while money is already flowing.....

Please step away from the daily standard......

 

[MTdream]

Ummm, from what I have read, it is not a fact there is no law in place...



Deal with China? There were deals with international companies, all who could bid.... I didn't expect there to be violence and chaos without the law, just that it will be harder to pass a (hydrocarbon) law, while money is already flowing.....

Please step away from the daily standard......

China awarded services contract for building everything from production to electric etc. will position them to be in the catbird seat for future contracts as well...used CNN hope your happy with that...

Iraq parliament approves draft Oil law and bbc source...getting more euro for you...

and here is a source you might like...thanks to those senators, they got in the way of evil big oil from getting the contracts... Al Jazeera comments on the oil law and its passing


oops wait, that hydrocarbon law (according to Al Jazeera) was not wanted and was seen a the path to cause chaos...hmmm wonder if those fine senators were doing anything but dealing politics to slander...nah...I must be wrong and my sources should just come from the source of all great news true non yellow journalism as per liberals

i seek your forgiveness in advance for not seekign your permission to think independently of the major media spoon feeding...

oh, and in case the Iraqi Parliament didnt seek your permission to approve, here is the draft law as approved As well as update of law being sent to parliament which the Kurds now have seen, yet claimed initally to not have seen

while it is true there is not a finalized vote yet, the law is seen to be completed within days, however the terms have for the most part been agreed to which is what stemmed the award of the contract to China...and hte new law on royalty sharing is inline with the long standing law...and inline with how the monies were already being shared...thus the cute little senators stunt was prety much all for not...

 

[ruffryder]

MTdream, good stuff man!

Not sure about the hostility, but thanks for taking the time....

 

[MTdream]

MTdream, good stuff man!

Not sure about the hostility, but thanks for taking the time....

dont take kindly to people telling me what to post and what not to post...thought it was the internet...thought I was in America...but find it funny that the thing Libs scream about is freedom of speech yet they are the first ones to tell others to shut up...

personally LOVE a great exchange of ideas...HATE ignorant babbling...

apologize if it comes across as hostility...