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M1000 Tuning Problems

I am running a 09 M1000 with speedwerx single pipe, timing key, cylinder porting and the boondocker. It seems like the engine cuts out around 5500-6500 RPM range. this also happens when moving at slow speeds and then go to hammer on the gas. I have plugged every combination of numbers I could come up with and no luck. I feel it is because the rpm ranges are to far apart to allow for proper tuning. My buddy has a 09 M1000 with a 1200 D&d kit. He also is having these problems. Your thoughts!!!
 
I just bought a boondocker nitrous kit from Justin at Code Red, do you happen to have any base line numbers for tuning? I run anywhere from 0ft to 4000ft.

Also I was thinking of maybe getting a o2 gauge to help with tuning. What brand and where would you recommned where to get it.

TTT

Or would duel EGT gauges work

Either an o2 or EGT can be effective in tuning. My opinion is an o2 is easier to use, but EGTs seem to be more reliable.
If you’re running an adjustable regulator Dragons seem to be tuning in at 16 at 180 and 38 at 340, in the nitrous screen.


i have an o6 crossfire 7 which i have extended to a 153 i have recently bought jaws twins and i cant get them tuned in for minnesota wisconsn just woundering if you had any tips

I don’t have any starting numbers for you, but early on in this thread we discussed tuning with twins on M7-8s. There are a number of different features in the BD box that are commonly ignored that can make a huge difference. Review the first few pages of this thread and let me know if there is any info I could add that may be more helpful.

When i let off ofter a long pull my A/F number go through the roof. Would adding a little bit on the low mid help this? Thanks for the help.

Skin

Yeah… adding fuel in the lo and mid will help this. But I wouldn’t add fuel in these areas unless you absolutely need it, because it can case you to load up.

Junior, I posted this in the AC section. (Couldn't find this thread last night)

I have my BD box on basically a bone stock 07 M1000. I have the fuel pressure set at 42psi (BMP regulator). I have the BD box setup to keep my EGT's in the 1150-1200 range through out the RPM range and at all throttle settings. This works well at 6000ft and up. When riding lower elevations at a steady throttle setting around 5400rpm in the low tps I will have the Mag cylinder drop out. I will see a good 400 deg difference in EGT temps. If I nail the throttle it will snap right up and pull hard. (Sometimes not but 90% of the time it will clean right up).

I am wondering if the ECU is compensating the fuel to the point that it is running rich and causing it to foul due to the lower elevations. I have copied my 6000ft fuel map and tried to adjust the fuel. I have to add a couple points to keep the temps below 1250 but then it wants to foul when I get out of it. Pulls hard, snap off the throttle and it will foul.

Any ideas. I plan to call BD tomorrow and talk about it but thought I would try the SW guys first.

Thanks

Thunder

Sounds like you could take some fuel out of the 5000 mid, you can also use the TR in the 5000 to control fuel on the PTO cylinder.

Check out your stats screen when you’re having the rich condition, to see what rpm and load range you need to adjust. You could also use a capture button to freeze the stats at any given point, and review the info after you’ve come to a stop. The left arrow button can also be used as a capture button, if don’t have a nitrous/capture button.

i have a 05 f7 lake race ported .pipe and bd box,im putting a air fuel ratio guage on it this week,my dealer told me fuel pressure should be 46 and a/f guage set at 12.2 is this correct

46 psi sounds good to me. I usually try to hit mid 13s on a NA engine, but that could be too lean for your application. If your dealer has experience with this specific setup I would definitely heed his advice.

Thanks for all the questions,
Junior
 
I am running a 09 M1000 with speedwerx single pipe, timing key, cylinder porting and the boondocker. It seems like the engine cuts out around 5500-6500 RPM range. this also happens when moving at slow speeds and then go to hammer on the gas. I have plugged every combination of numbers I could come up with and no luck. I feel it is because the rpm ranges are to far apart to allow for proper tuning. My buddy has a 09 M1000 with a 1200 D&d kit. He also is having these problems. Your thoughts!!!

Are you using EGTs? If so what temps are you running when the engine cuts out? What numbers are you running in your BD box?

Thanks,
Junior
 
Either an o2 or EGT can be effective in tuning. My opinion is an o2 is easier to use, but EGTs seem to be more reliable.
If you’re running an adjustable regulator Dragons seem to be tuning in at 16 at 180 and 38 at 340, in the nitrous screen.

I am goin to be runnin the adjustable regulator. Now I havent installed the kit yet, so i have no idea what you mean by 16@180 and 38@340 LOL. Could you explain it a little more for me? Sorry i am new to all this :beer;
 
I'm not having any problems with my fuel controller it seems to work perfectly. But when I first put it on I would be riding along and it would just die and send me over the handlebars, it did this to me three times before I finally put the by-pass on and it then ran fine. So I called Boondocker and explained what was happening and they told me to check my ground. Sure enough thats what it was. So I built my own ground and went straight to the coil mounting bolt. Problem fixed. I would like to point out that I was using the ground wire that they tell you to use in the instructions. I hope this does'nt happen to other people and make them think there controller isn't working.
 
I've read through the thread a few times, but Im still going to ask, what #
do you typically recomend for the low settings.

ported F7-800 w/ FatAzz pipe
 
I have a o6 M7 witha Dakota/Cutler 1100 stroker. It has a Boondocker controller. Can anyone explain exactly what the accelarator pump feature will do for me? It is currently activated. The last owner had no idea how to tune a sled so I am wondering if this feature is setup wrong what it would do? I have tuned the other numbers but haven't touched this feature yet. Also the sled seems to be really rich at idle and clutch engagement. I tried lowering the lowest rpm numbers and it runs better but will sometimes stall out if let to idle. It won't restart untill I richen up the numbers. Any ideas? Finally to confirm on the higher rpm ranges (7500 and up) I shouldn't add much fuel in the low and mid areas? At WOT this motor craves fuel, I have the 7500 and up high settings at +40 at around 7500 feet to keep egt's down.
Thx
 
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I have a o6 M7 witha Dakota/Cutler 1100 stroker. It has a Boondocker controller. Can anyone explain exactly what the accelarator pump feature will do for me? It is currently activated. The last owner had no idea how to tune a sled so I am wondering if this feature is setup wrong what it would do? I have tuned the other numbers but haven't touched this feature yet. Also the sled seems to be really rich at idle and clutch engagement. I tried lowering the lowest rpm numbers and it runs better but will sometimes stall out if let to idle. It won't restart untill I richen up the numbers. Any ideas? Finally to confirm on the higher rpm ranges (7500 and up) I shouldn't add much fuel in the low and mid areas? At WOT this motor craves fuel, I have the 7500 and up high settings at +40 at around 7500 feet to keep egt's down.
Thx

The accelerator feature is used to add or subtract fuel when you move the throttle. If you find you have a condition that when you grab the throttle, you go rich or lean for just a moment this can oftentimes be tuned out with the accelerator feature. In the earlier programming there are only two adjustments AM & DR. The AM represents the amount of fuel added or subtracted during activation. The DR represents the amount of time (duration) the fuel is added or subtracted. The newer programming will also have a SEN, this is a sensitivity adjustment. By changing the SEN number you can adjust how sensitive to throttle movement the accelerator feature is, 1 is most sensitive and 10 is least sensitive.

Thanks,
Junior
 
settings for 2005 900 King cat efi

Anyone have the settings or what they are running that is set up similar to mine?


Speedwerks single pipe, y pipe, can
v force 3 reeds
Slp air box lid gutted stock air box
stock pistons and porting
4000-6500 ft
stock clutching
Koso dual gauge(temp area ??????)


THANK YOU to anyone who can help!!!!! Greg
 
Do I need to hook up a battery for the Innovate XD-16 wideband? I have a 05 polaris 975 that doesn't have a battery currently on it. I have heard these guages don't like the sleds erratic voltage. I bought a small RC 1100mA battery pack that I was going to use to power/stabalize the voltage. I am going to charge the pack from my sled. Is this going to be big enough, the power to the wideband has to be fused at 5 amps?
 
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