bmfab AXYS boards on my pro

[ullose272]

soooo, just spit balling here, but looking at the pics of the new axys with bmfab boards on it, im thinking that it might be easy to retro some of these onto my pro, and baically just have to use a spacer for the footwell and for the rear suspension mount, much like the skinz airlocs work, if you look at the bmfab boards they basically bolt with flat metal to the tunnel which would work great to attach these to the tunnel and trim up the bottom of the tunnel (if you wanted) my thinking is that you could raise your running boards this wayto have some of what the axys gives you, in that regard. any thoughts. are the pro and axys boards the same length? heres a pic of them

 

[Spaarky]

Why not just get Pro boards from them? What are you gaining with Axys boards?

Also Skinz makes raised up boards already, I am putting a set on right now. It also narrows your pro plastic.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Axys boards are shorter by 3" at the rear tunnel bolt.
2" higher.

Not only do you get a better product than skinz its cheaper too.

 

[Spaarky]

Huh. Guess I wAsted a lot of money.

I must needs glasses cause my boards sure look 1000x beefier and more engineered than that. Plus the body work changes included. Like I said though, must be loosing my eyesite.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Huh. Guess I wAsted a lot of money.

I must needs glasses cause my boards sure look 1000x beefier and more engineered than that. Plus the body work changes included. Like I said though, must be loosing my eyesite.

Now you can't edit that. ^^^

Funny chit

 

[Spaarky]

I was editing to add. If you really want to make the project successful and imitate a Axys, you still have to buy that POS Skinz front suspension. It's the only way to gain the ride height.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

I was editing to add. If you really want to make the project successful and imitate a Axys, you still have to buy that POS Skinz front suspension. It's the only way to gain the ride height.

Axys spindles.

Done.

 

[B&M Fabrications]

Technically, you would have to drop the skid out of the chassis as well to match the front suspension changes. This will destroy the approach angle in the process unless you are doing extended chaincase or beltdrive back plate.

I have had a few inquiries on if our axys boards will fit the pro chassis since we released the pictures. Honest answer is we dont know yet. If they are adaptable then we can put together a kit for it for sure.

The axys boards are still in the building phase at this point as well. The boards on this sled are one offs and they will be ever so slightly changed on the real version. We take pride in the products that we make, knowing that everything goes out the door with the same consistent build quality that anyone should not hope for but expect when you shell your hard earned money.

What would be gained with this board on the pro?

- flat plate on the tunnel for strength and less snow holding issues.

- axys has a shorter tunnel side the to mount this board would raise them up higher that the pro board.

- eliminating the footwell hoop on the pro chassis that catches your feet and takes you for a ride.

Bryan.

 

[ullose272]

Technically, you would have to drop the skid out of the chassis as well to match the front suspension changes. This will destroy the approach angle in the process unless you are doing extended chaincase or beltdrive back plate.

I have had a few inquiries on if our axys boards will fit the pro chassis since we released the pictures. Honest answer is we dont know yet. If they are adaptable then we can put together a kit for it for sure.

The axys boards are still in the building phase at this point as well. The boards on this sled are one offs and they will be ever so slightly changed on the real version. We take pride in the products that we make, knowing that everything goes out the door with the same consistent build quality that anyone should not hope for but expect when you shell your hard earned money.

What would be gained with this board on the pro?

- flat plate on the tunnel for strength and less snow holding issues.

- axys has a shorter tunnel side the to mount this board would raise them up higher that the pro board.

- eliminating the footwell hoop on the pro chassis that catches your feet and takes you for a ride.

Bryan.

What he said

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[ullose272]

Why not just get Pro boards from them? What are you gaining with Axys boards?

Also Skinz makes raised up boards already, I am putting a set on right now. It also narrows your pro plastic.

Not gonna spend over a grand on air-locs sorry

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[roni87]

You could just raise the stockers up by adding a piece of angle to the bottom lip. Would have to finagle the front attachment a bit, but wouldn't be too hard.
These are 1'' up on the inside. 1/16" thick aluminum angle.

 

[Spaarky]

Not gonna spend over a grand on air-locs sorry

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I don't blame, its a lot of money. I looked at trying to modifying some boards to get the same effect. When I ran the numbers, after fab work, powder coating, extra parts, ect.... the cost was closer than I thought. Plus I would have a nicer fit a finish, plastics to accommodate the new boards. That's why I went the way I did.

Sheetmtlfab.... you can try to the new spindles. I don't have a set in front of me to measure. I know the geometry would be different than skinz, plus skinz has longer shocks. Its a package, not just added ride height.

One thing, I don't understand is why you guys bag on Skinz all the time. I am not a professional welder, but have buddys that are very good fabricators. I have not heard them make one complaint..... I think BmFab has great products. I have their front bumper... its kick azz. Best bumper on the market IMO.

Its just in the is case the air locs were designed for the 2" clearance. It appears to me they have more bracing and tunnel support for the 2" rise. The only thing I wish was, I could have gotten them shorter. That will have to happen when I go to an Axys.

Technically, you would have to drop the skid out of the chassis as well to match the front suspension changes. This will destroy the approach angle in the process unless you are doing extended chaincase or beltdrive back plate.

Yes and no... you don't NEED to drop the skid, you can just follow Jakes suspension set up. Look at all of Burandt and Adams sleds from the last couple years. Front went up back did not. Shoot even the new Axys at HDs were that way. If you are trying to match the Axys geometry exactly then yes, you would need to drop the rear skid.

 

[B&M Fabrications]

I'm in no way ragging on anyone else's product just to be clear. The skinz front end is entirely different. The axis spindle will simply raise the front of the chassis 1-3/8", problem is the rear needs to be raised the same to match or you're going to have lots of ski pressure. I built a pro to do this last year to try it and it's definitely different. I skipped the drop and roll on the chaincase and it obviously trenched like crazy because of it. Raised boards are just that, raised boards. Whether you run the air locs or adapt this axys board. Raising the chassis is another thing.

 

[Spaarky]

BMfab... that wasn't directed at you.. You have always conducted business in the most professional matter.

Please don't take offense to this. Without a doubt in my mind you are very knowledgeable. If you lift the front as Skinz has been doing you need to scale your sled just like Jake does in their videos. We set up our sleds just as he does, my numbers actually match his, almost perfectly. My sled and the other guys I ride do not trench at all. Their "snowmobility" is absolutely amazing. I know its not your experience and I know exactly what you are saying. Just going to have to trust me on this one. Grab some race car scales, get the weight right.

I understand the Skinz front suspension is different than just different spindles, but I think the same weight distribution could be applied.

 

[B&M Fabrications]

I was more so referring to using the axys spindle. The skinz setup is engineered that way for sure. My pro was setup by building a 2 inch lift basically for the whole chassis, but I left the drive shaft in the stock location and it ruined the approach angle.

 

[goridedoo]

You could just raise the stockers up by adding a piece of angle to the bottom lip. Would have to finagle the front attachment a bit, but wouldn't be too hard.
These are 1'' up on the inside. 1/16" thick aluminum angle.

Hey, your missing half your tunnel.

 

[B&M Fabrications]

You could just raise the stockers up by adding a piece of angle to the bottom lip. Would have to finagle the front attachment a bit, but wouldn't be too hard.
These are 1'' up on the inside. 1/16" thick aluminum angle.

I am really curious as to how well your setup will work. Got really busy on Saturday and we didn't get to talk about the front end but did I hear that you are going to single ski that?

 

[roni87]

Still have two skis, shooting for a 37" front end and possibly a bit forward. Gonna make my own arms with some bent ones laying around.

Bryan, did order up a rush bulkhead cooler too I know we talked about that and figured not worth the risk of running hot. As the pictures show, the bottom of the stock coolers are cut out and you can see the back of the mini cooler in the tunnel.

 

[B&M Fabrications]

Good idea on the cooler. Gonna be a hot running machine.

I'll stop derailing this thread farther. I'll see if I can get some pics up today or tonight of how well this axys board will fit on the pro.

 

[ullose272]

You could just raise the stockers up by adding a piece of angle to the bottom lip. Would have to finagle the front attachment a bit, but wouldn't be too hard.
These are 1'' up on the inside. 1/16" thick aluminum angle.

If i just move the boards up the rear mount woulf be into th cooler. I like the bmfab boards because its a flat playe i can just bolt to the tunnel. Easy peasy. Then just get some spacers for footwell and suspension hanger

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