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An opportunity... Call Nick at 970-887-2923 to place a cc deposit on a cash deal to lock in the deal of $8100 + applicable tax for a NEW 2009 Ski Doo Summit Everest XP 800 154 with full one year factory warranty! Also get 20% off in-stock accessories, clothing and parts with the purchase of your sled. 2 machines left! Price includes exclusive altitude carb adj, and clutching, freight and documentation fee.
NO GIMMICKS, just want to hook a couple of people up with a great deal and move 2 sleds!
I had some thoughts on a thread I was reading earlier, and think the issue is of a much bigger scope than just getting power out of sleds, with respect to new manufacturing standards.
The thread goes on about cylinder head design,
my comments;
If you want to look at a good head design for a big bore 2-stroke, look at a stock Kawasaki KX500 head, especially after you let someone like pro-circuit in CA or LSE in Denver CO, get at one. There has been years of dyno runs, longevity tests, porting and bench-flow testing that has been done already and should be available. Use what they know to your advantage if you are going to mess with your head.
The ski-doo head design DOES help to comply with emissions. The Power TEK carburated 800 has a better emissions rating than the Japanese Suzuki throttle body injected M8! Also in general, as for overall consistency, emissions and performance, the stock can and silencer work VERY well. Just the can is heavy though, and stock, the machine sounds electric instead of like a bad *** 800.
Most currently successful manufactures invest serious amounts of time and money on engineers, equipment, new ideas, and studies in the field, trying to knock down noises and vibrations. Many ideas including some aeronautic influences are used like 1/4 wave attenuators (Yamaha had many of these on their later 2-stroke sleds), simple foam, geometry, "plates" to block noise, different track clips and track designs, different materials throughout, the list will never be finished.
The manufacturers have to be concerned with a lot more than performance in mass production. If what I have been told is correct, and it seems true, when BRP comes out with a new chassis, half of their R&D, engineers, resources go to improving that specific chassis.
The other half begin on the next "future" chassis. Makes sense doesn't it? An example would be the 2003 and 1/2 early release of the REV 800 144x16. That was a turning point in the industry and a great machine to ride. The 05 rev was better. Better suspension and geometry (front and rear), crank seal protector, they'd also addressed some engine failure problems. The 06 was even better. The 2006 Summit X was possibly one of the best production snowmobiles ever made. I will omitt 2007.
All this time XP's had to have been in process of being developed. Early by solid modeling and FEA, and then prototypes were being tested long before anyone could buy an XP. For the 2007/2008 season BRP had to have set a record for most prototypes on the snow the year before production.
A similar pattern is possibly currently in progress... The 09 XP is much better than the 08. Some simple things make an 08 act a lot better. The 2010's are now beginning their test. I expect they will be similar in meeting expectations that the 06 X did. Crossing my fingers, and just speculating.
I wonder what the next chassis that might be in progress now will look like and be called? A Ski Doo Summit Everest REV XP X XRS SX 800 HO E-tech 157.7 with Camoplast Lite Wall Ported track, pivot **** pit and suspension snowmobile! Sounds kinda cool. Much new technology still to be seen!
Thats why their snowcross sleds are so sick. Put your best team together!
Who cares about emmisions or noise when you have a race to go and win!
I hope all of you snowmobile advocates out there continue to support and allow the manufactures, your best dealers, and racing to survive our current economic troubles!
If you read this hope you enjoyed! LET IT SNOW!!! Comments appreciated!
An opportunity... Call Nick at 970-887-2923 to place a cc deposit on a cash deal to lock in the deal of $8100 + applicable tax for a NEW 2009 Ski Doo Summit Everest XP 800 154 with full one year factory warranty! Also get 20% off in-stock accessories, clothing and parts with the purchase of your sled. 2 machines left! Price includes exclusive altitude carb adj, and clutching, freight and documentation fee.
NO GIMMICKS, just want to hook a couple of people up with a great deal and move 2 sleds!
I had some thoughts on a thread I was reading earlier, and think the issue is of a much bigger scope than just getting power out of sleds, with respect to new manufacturing standards.
The thread goes on about cylinder head design,
my comments;
If you want to look at a good head design for a big bore 2-stroke, look at a stock Kawasaki KX500 head, especially after you let someone like pro-circuit in CA or LSE in Denver CO, get at one. There has been years of dyno runs, longevity tests, porting and bench-flow testing that has been done already and should be available. Use what they know to your advantage if you are going to mess with your head.
The ski-doo head design DOES help to comply with emissions. The Power TEK carburated 800 has a better emissions rating than the Japanese Suzuki throttle body injected M8! Also in general, as for overall consistency, emissions and performance, the stock can and silencer work VERY well. Just the can is heavy though, and stock, the machine sounds electric instead of like a bad *** 800.
Most currently successful manufactures invest serious amounts of time and money on engineers, equipment, new ideas, and studies in the field, trying to knock down noises and vibrations. Many ideas including some aeronautic influences are used like 1/4 wave attenuators (Yamaha had many of these on their later 2-stroke sleds), simple foam, geometry, "plates" to block noise, different track clips and track designs, different materials throughout, the list will never be finished.
The manufacturers have to be concerned with a lot more than performance in mass production. If what I have been told is correct, and it seems true, when BRP comes out with a new chassis, half of their R&D, engineers, resources go to improving that specific chassis.
The other half begin on the next "future" chassis. Makes sense doesn't it? An example would be the 2003 and 1/2 early release of the REV 800 144x16. That was a turning point in the industry and a great machine to ride. The 05 rev was better. Better suspension and geometry (front and rear), crank seal protector, they'd also addressed some engine failure problems. The 06 was even better. The 2006 Summit X was possibly one of the best production snowmobiles ever made. I will omitt 2007.
All this time XP's had to have been in process of being developed. Early by solid modeling and FEA, and then prototypes were being tested long before anyone could buy an XP. For the 2007/2008 season BRP had to have set a record for most prototypes on the snow the year before production.
A similar pattern is possibly currently in progress... The 09 XP is much better than the 08. Some simple things make an 08 act a lot better. The 2010's are now beginning their test. I expect they will be similar in meeting expectations that the 06 X did. Crossing my fingers, and just speculating.
I wonder what the next chassis that might be in progress now will look like and be called? A Ski Doo Summit Everest REV XP X XRS SX 800 HO E-tech 157.7 with Camoplast Lite Wall Ported track, pivot **** pit and suspension snowmobile! Sounds kinda cool. Much new technology still to be seen!
Thats why their snowcross sleds are so sick. Put your best team together!
Who cares about emmisions or noise when you have a race to go and win!
I hope all of you snowmobile advocates out there continue to support and allow the manufactures, your best dealers, and racing to survive our current economic troubles!
If you read this hope you enjoyed! LET IT SNOW!!! Comments appreciated!