BCIL on the Denver news for ABS avy bags

[AndrettiDog]

Dammmnnn....

I hoped for Blu Ray, expected 720p and all we get is a video of the TV interview!

Glad you posted QW.

I think you can look at anyone who is involved in an avlanche and question every move. Sometimes people make dumb decisions. But you can also question a guy all the way to the point that you question why he even left the couch that day. At least BCIL lives and learns and we all benefit a little.

Snow is growing as we speak. Avoid the big nasty stuff.

 

[backcountryislife]

Maybe there was a fair bit of luck involved too?


If you choose to ride somewhere that you personally refer to as Russian roulette and that you want to play "Russian Roullette" 6o+ times a year? And then choose to go into that area during a complete white out...during high avy alerts? That would be like filling the gun short of one bullet..why stack the odds?

Sorry but that is not making smart decisions. Not using your biggest tool to your advantage.

SO, I'm curious, you ride in the flats all year long?


Don't go up any hills? You just avoid them all year long?

that pic you have as an avatar... you just superimposed it?

Perhaps you confuse my statement of russian roulette, nearly ALL of what we ride in the winter (assuming you're not in kansas) is dangerous.

Kinda surprised to hear this from you...

You want to play the "I'm so superior, that could NEVER happen to me, so I don't need to waste my money on silly tools" card, go for it. It's your loss.

I've already explained the mistakes I made, that's not exactly difficult to figure out after the fact. So, captain hindsight... what else should I have done????

 

[tudizzle]

You did everything right...there



Where did I say not to use any type of equipment? Or to stay off hills or I would never make a mistake and get in a bad situation.


I guess your use of referring to your riding area as Russian roulette just seemed off. And that you like to play it it alot. You do know what Russian Roulette is?

 

[backcountryislife]

You do know what Russian Roulette is?

Yeah, it's called snowmobiling in the Colorado snowpack all winter long.

Funny, because I ride at Jones people assume I go hillclimbing & dropping cornices all year long... why do you think I got into building booters & jumping so much?

Not sure what your deal is tonight dizz, Neither I, nor anybody else said I did everything right.
By DEFINITION... getting caught in a slide is quite specifically NOT doing everything right. (glad I've explained that for the 17th time)

 

[skibreeze]

Kaleb, the simple point that Brandon is making is this. You choose to ride Jones Pass, which is inherently more avy prone than most of the the areas we choose to ride. We pass by Jones and head to other areas instead.

Your wrong turn put you on top of a 600 foot cliff, none of those that I have ever seen up at the ears. We choose where to ride no different than you, but where you choose to ride puts you at a higher risk more often.

 

[tudizzle]

not trying to stir it


Lets just be glad were all here to have this discussion

 

[backcountryislife]

Point taken.


I get what you're saying, but what you're missing in my point is even though I may ride here, there's tons of stuff that we do to stay away from the sketchy stuff on the high danger days.

I made a mistake in navigation, and a big lapse in judgment by underestimating the consequences of that mistake, but on a normal day with high avy danger, I don't go poking at the dragon to see what will happen... it's just not how we work.

I ride here because it's my back yard, I know that even with avoiding the bigger stuff in the dangerous part of the year, there's always the chance, so I'm pretty picky about being safe.

Btw, you can get buried at RE or any of the other places you guys ride too... To think otherwise is riding in denial.

 

[skibreeze]

I like my chances at the ears much, much, much better. Yet we are still wearing our ABS and beacons just in case some fluke thing happens.

 

[tudizzle]

Btw, you can get buried at RE or any of the other places you guys ride too... To think otherwise is riding in denial.

Absolutely....any slope under the right conditions.

Be prepared...limit exposure to risk....ride smart.

The best we can do.

 

[TIM]

backcountry

question for you. Did you have your leg attatchemnts hooked up to the pack? I very rarely ever strap the leg attatchments up on the abs pack.

thanks
tim

 

[backcountryislife]

No, I don't think I've ever worn mine.

I wear my strap somewhat tight, that's about it.

 

[tudizzle]

I've thought about it before...and with my tekvest on, the bottom pack strap rides under the bottom of the vest preventing it from being able to ride up.

 

[snowww1]

Leg strap should be used every time. Keeps the pack from riding up and putting the sternum strap at your neck and keeps the pack on your body. The force of an avalanche is strong enough to pull the pack off you if loose. Ride with the leg strap.

Mike Duffy

www.avalanche1.com

Avalanche education for mountain riders.