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AVY Advise Opinions!!

The best advice to solve your Got To Climb but worried about avy's. Since you are to butt hurt to listen to others. Here it is after you unload your sled get all your gear on. Find the biggest TREE get about a 100 yard run at it and see how high you make it. That is your best bet to not getting in an avy and the best part is the stories you can tell about how you highmarked out west. Than come back and tell us all about it!!!
 
Like i said several times.. thanks.

"What are you going to prove? Lol. That you can climb hills and chutes in unstable conditions?
You do that buddy. You say your not cocky yet you make statements like this"
....Maybe That i'm not going to die. Im not going to have the mindset that i am.I mean weather it was a stupid question or not i'm trying to learn this stuff. And people are bashing me and I've been nothing but nice. Majority of people in this thread live around an area in mountains that they can ride every year all winter. I don't, and im so stoked to experience what u guys get every time you ride. And honestly what about me saying "I want to ride the hills" is the stupidest thing you've every heard. For someone that lives in Michigan why would they ever want to go out west. I mean besides the deep pow its the elevation the, mountains. Everyones right for telling me i don't know enough about avys and how to prevent them
And the Beacon statement i made saying it creates room or something i did post after that it was interpreted the wrong way and worded wrong by me and people are still telling me this is why everyones giving me a hard time.... I made a mistake and corrected myself.. 20 posts later i keeps coming up.
I've read a few topics about preventing slides from happening. Never once read anything about what to do when your in one.. Thats the only reason I asked that question and that got taking as another stupid question. Clearly its a hell of a lot more important to prevent them but its also a good idea to have a little knowledge of what to do if your in one weather you were being careful or not. I kept seeing that i'm being cocky or bull headed and i couldnt disagree more. I started this topic because i was really worried about being in a slide after reading and seeing all those videos of slides and as this trip came closer. I have nothing to be cocky about. Im not cocky Im concerned. Thats why im on here.
So sorry to those who i was being cocky or bullheaded too those weren't my intensions. Certainly not trying to argue and create enemies on here.
 
Listen last time I will explain. Those of us that live out here and ride every weekend have had to pretty much sacraficed this whole season and do not climb. Youre so set on the notion of climbing and taking the risk. You honestly think if your caught you will be ok if you just figure out what to do after the avy starts. Well unless you have an avy pack there isnt alot that is going to up you chances. You dont understrand the statistics of serviving and avy. As for your research about the conditions to look for throw them out the window because it doesnt count this year. As mentions by others to you.

Your first response keeps coming up because of all your responses and it just shows you lack of knowledge. Thats it wording or not your other comments also point to this. You keep saying its not worth the trip if you cant climb. Well how do you know if you have never been?
 
Ok, I think the extremes are blurring the fact that there's a TON of completely rideable terrain that you can have a blast on without pushing too far.

Both Skibreeze & myself (can't speak for the ones I don't know) are serious riders who aren't exactly sitting at the bottom of the hill telling everyone "git down, it's DAINGERIS UP THAR" we push, we climb, drop cornices, we ride hard, every weekend... we've also both been caught & gotten lucky. I just barely survived a slide about 45 min south of GL last year... and I've got a TON of avy experience. I've done countless classes, taken my level 1 & 2, taught tons of others... and I got caught. It's not some joke when people say that it's sketchy out here this year. It's BAD.

That said, what you're missing in what I said earlier, and perhaps I overstated... there's a ton of great terrain without being a "gravel mountain statistic" You can come here & ride all SORTS of killer (killer in a good way) terrain without climbing "super chicken" or any chutes.

When someone like me offers to guide... it's something you should really think about, guys who live here know the area, know the stashes, and we also know the avy conditions & how they pertain to a particular hill... that's the kind of thing that's invaluable out here.


Glad you're taking an avy class, maybe you'll learn enough to avoid the terrain that we're talking about. If it's Mike Duffy's class, don't be afraid to ask him specifically about the area & what is good to go & what is to be avoided.
 
just for a bit of a visual aid for ya...


you don't "technique" your way out of something that does this:

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You can tell yourself that "if I just do THIS I'll be fine"... but that's a really stupid way to go about it. AVOID the slide, simple as that.


If you want to find your limits... Shoot me a PM, I'll find them for ya... and we don't need to die to find them.:eyebrows:

You bringing the camera? I'll show you some spots worth getting shots of! ;)
 
You need to listen to everything these guys are telling you, and even take them up on the offer of a guided tour. I will take a guide over going in without one any day of the week because they do know the terrain, if you find yourself in Wa. hit me or some of my buddies up, we can take you places that will give you "your limits" without killing you. I know the area here very well and just last weekend almost got buried in an avy on a hill I have ridden since I started, and my dad has ridden for 20 years. It is completely unpredictable out there this year, there is 10+ feet of heavy snow on top of a sugary base in spots and it doesn't take much to break it. The crown of the avy I broke was 6-8 feet in spots, talk about a scary slide, I called it a day as soon as I was clear of it and headed for the truck.
 
Im from wisconsin same terrain ur use to riding. This also was my first year for riding in the mountains. Had the same mind set as you had all summer and fall leading in the trip. Thought i was goin to go anywhere i wanted and climb everything. Read all the early post of the extreme avy danger due to the layer of crystilized snow. Didnt think nothing of it. Thought it was nothing but a bunch of talk. The day before we got to cooke they had received 10-15 inches of powder. Exactly what i was hoping for. Got back in off the trail. Ended up getting down in a ravine. Thought we could just folllow the ravine to the bottom and be find. Bout half way down had we had to sidehill 5 feet or so up the hillside to get around a tree. i was the last sled to go through. Right before i got to the tree the hill gave way. LUCKILY it was just a small slide (no the less a slide). And for sure a eye opener for all three of us. Ended up with one more slide goin in the same ravine. Long story short we all made it to the bottom. But it was a deffient eye opener. But the real reality check was when we got back to the hotel that night we learned in the same area we were riding there was two people lost in slides that day. The next two days of our trip we moved to much flatter ground and STILL had FUN. I guees what im trying to say is listen to these guys. The know what there talking about. U might think u want to learn as u go but learning as u go and not respecting the danger could indeed b the end of the learning for u.

Ride smart and have fun.
 
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