anybody ride a stock nytro

[asleder]

Currently ride an 2009 M1000 and moded 1998 SRX for back up, which is still quite competive (won't beat the m1000 but will still beat a few stock 800xp's).

For reliability concerns was hoping to purchase a 2012 Nytro-162. Are there any non-turbo mods that will make this sled competive (for an old-timer).

 

[sledheadd]

With engine work and a new head 165-170 hp is probably doable... but it won't be cheap.

 

[merlin2569]

Competitive with your M1000, No. You have to remember that a stock nytro is basically the same horsepower as a stock 600. However, I rode my nytro stock for a year and thought it was a very fun sled to ride. Put a steering post relocator and one of the new Skinz or Z-Broz front ends in and you would have a pretty fun sled. Just my .02

 

[twincam88]

i have a 2010 nytro mtx with excell system k&n's and a pc5 and she will hang with the 800's all day. down here in the flat lands i can get 90mph out of it!! it works really well with the pc5 if you get a good map!

 

[Mister907]

i musta got a different sled than im hearing about. when i hit the gas on my bone stock 08, it rips at my shoulders, and im gone. 96 mph no problem. do anything and go anywhere i want. i have two buddies with 08 800 xps that cant keep up. wondering if the guys are comparing the racing chassis sleds? the only problem i ever have is due to the super lame maverick track on it. the thing went limp after 2 rides. need track viagra for maverick and im good.

oh, and im only riding circles around the xps when they are not in the shop. so no, it doesnt happen too often. hahaha! and after 600 miles they both got ski-boo telling them their engines are shot! YEP, 600 MILES...IN 3 YEARS! i think they have more hours in the shop than on snow!

 

[sledr3405]

I would say save up to buy turbo or supercharger and dont waste money on other performance mods. YOU will not be happy with the performance otherwise.
I almost bought one before i rode a few without boost, very disappointed

 

[wilmot]

Boost is the only way to go on the nytro. Once you ride one your gonna want one.

 

[MTN_VIPER]

It really depends on the type of riding you want to do.
I've been down the modded up 2 stroke route before and I did have fun with it at the time. Now I'm finding myself less tolerant to such things as lean burn downs and trying to find "good" fuel. I would rather just go to any gas station, fill'er up with cheap regular fuel and go ride!

Mine is naturally aspirated and with a header puts it somewhere in the mid 140hp range. While that is certainly not in the boosted sled performance range by any means, I don't consider it under powered for the type of riding I like to do either.
I mostly like to explore, boondock through the trees and play in the bowls. That said, I did shave off about 50lbs of weight, and did notice a nice improvement in deep snow performance.
There may come a day when I decide that I want to put a turbo on it, but for the time being the sled has been able to take me where I want to go and I'm having fun with it.

The 2012 Nytro has received some improvements along the way and the new track appears to be a good one. I'd consider buying another one if I was in the market for a new sled. Then if I decided that I still needed more power, boost is always an option. Best part is even when boosted they'll still out last most 2 strokes.

 

[asleder]

non-turbo feedback on Nytro

Thanks for the feedback guys - if I can get 140-170 hp + a little clutch work without turbo then that is enough for me. At 60+ I will be riding this sled until I am 70+ and I expect that hanging onto a boosted nytro may become to much of a challenge

 

[Escmanaze]

Think Twice

Here's my story - for what it's worth to you as I think there are some parts relevant to you and maybe you can compare. I'm 30 and my dad is currently 67.

I grew up with my dad Buying Mtn. Max rides. They were great at the time. When 07 came around, My dad was on his 2001 MM700 (144), so was my brother. My dad had a 99 MM700 that I could have ridden, but I chose to go buy myself a 2008 M8 (153).

I loved that sled!!!!!!!

One day I got back on my dad's MM700 and let him try my M8. I was obviously really glad I wasn't riding his MM700 anymore, and actually, he didn't really care too much for my M8 - he was pretty happy to hop back on his MM. I couldn't figure it out. I loved that M8 soooo much, how could he not feel the same? Maybe he just wasn't used to it?

2009 I sell my M8 ($$$$) and I'm back to riding his machines. Fortunately, also in 2009, he buys a new stock Nytro 153. So at this point I'm riding the 2001 MM instead of the 99, which is nice for the longer track mostly, and he's on his Nytro. He felt bad that I had been demoted from my M8 back to his MM, so he would try to get me to be the jerk and steal his brand new Nytro from him so that at least my demotion wouldn't be as far of a fall. I refused as I kept thinking back to him not liking my M8 and the only thing that I could come up with was that he really needed to get used to riding the new (rider forward) style of sleds.

Then probably about February of 2011 after he had been riding the Nytro for a year and a half, on a fluke, we switched back for a minute. The next time we went riding he demanded that he get his MM back and not for my sake but his. He said he just had more fun on his MM because he just didn't have to work so hard to ride it. He has never looked back. Every time we go I make sure he has the choice of which one he really wants to ride and he always picks the MM. I don't mind, because I'm younger, so I still have the strength and stamina to fight with the Nytro and still have a fun day, and I like the extra power it has over the MM. It isn't like my old M8, but it's certainly closer to it than the MM, so it works. Except that my Dad bought a brand new sled and is still riding his decade old sled. Not cool, so I'm on a hunt for a new sled that he can buy that he will like as much as or more than his MM.

So in January of this year, we go to the Polaris Demo. By now I'm suspecting that the track length might have a lot to do with why he didn't like my M8 or the Nytro (both 153), so when we demo the Poo's, I make sure he gets a 600 144 and I go an hop on a 800 155. Riding for a while, he really likes the Pro 600, so I say ok, let's switch. Now I hop on the 600 144 and he is on the 800 155. He doesn't like it a bit. I tell him keep trying a little longer and then when I watch him and realize he's not having fun, I go give him his 600 144 back and he's right back to having a good time. Realistically, if we could find a 600 144 for him at a decent price, I think he would buy it right now and sell the Nytro.

For right now, I still have fun on the Nytro. The feel is kind of like my M that I loved. It just has less power and more weight to fight with and isn't quite as stable on the sidehills. It kind of wants to either get all the way on it's side or sit straight up, it doesn't as much like to sit right in that in-between position as easy as my M did, or really even as easy as the MM does. A turbo would cover up a lot of Nytro sins - for me. But I don't think a turbo would have made my dad like it any more than he already did. He just doesn't have the strength for the weight, and he just doesn't have the strength for the longer tracks. He did 7 years ago at 60, but for him (and I understand everybody ages different so this may not be the case for you) his 60's have been pretty brutal to his body strength

Anyway, really long story for the final summary: If you're anything like my dad, you might find yourself caring a lot more in the next few years about lightweight and easy to handle than you do about how much power it produces. If that's the case, you certainly won't like a stock Nytro, and I really don't think a turbo would make you like it a ton more.

 

[throttlecable]

"http://www.youtube.com/embed/dhGXYf2DWr0"

Here is a vid shot onboard my stock 2012 153". The snow was crap that day, but worked good for scoot'n through the trees. Yamaha has given us super good shock valving (customized by Fox), and Dynojet fuel tuning for our race program and I think we will be competitive with these sleds in the 600 class against the 2strokes. The USCC team has already taken several wins and podiums this year on the cross country circuits.

... as far as being easy to get along with, my wife rode this same sled earlier this winter and fell in love with it. Now she rides it everytime we go out. (she is 5'8"/130)