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ya i'm gonna start my then also, I was just lookin at all the different models of planes and was wondering which one would be a good plane for day trips as well as longer trips as I will be flying from Oregon to Montana alot. as always money is the big issue I didn't want to spend over 70K but i'd like a nice plane that could do all the above
 
I was just lookin at all the different models of planes and was wondering which one would be a good plane for day trips as well as longer trips as I will be flying from Oregon to Montana alot

You could always consider building your own. Would probably be a little more pricey than 70K but it certainly is an experience to fly in something you built not to mention all the things you learn along the way. My dad and I have been working on an RV-10 (http://www.vansaircraft.com/) for the last few years now. It will be done this spring. 260hp 205 mph cruising speed 4 seater.
 
I fly 737's for WestJet here in Canada. If you do your private definitely do a IFR as well. It will save your bacon !
 
try www. barnstormers.com they have any plane imaginable for sale, also alot of information on pilot training around the country. i myself fly ultralights. i like the ability to takeoff and land in my friends back yards.but at only 60-70 mph you dont get anywheres very quick. hope this helps.
 
C 172, Piper warrior, PA12, C150, ect, ect. Not the fastest. Can't fly the highest. Not the best of anything!!! Training, low flight time pilot airplanes!! Anything more you WILL get yourself in trouble. Buy an airplane like this ($20,000 to $50,000), use it for your training, build some time and experience. They are cheap to operate. THEN, sell it and buy a bigger, faster complex airplane.
Oh yeah-- like summitboy says - IFR training is very important.

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Seems like everyone has your life laid out but lets concentrate on your private first. As for your original question, I would recommend that you do your ground school first before flying or do both concurrently. If you fly first, then you might spend more money on flight training then you need to since info in ground school is needed for prep for flight lessons. Go to your local airport, go to the local FBO which is the place that rents airplanes and trains students. Talk to them about ground school requirements such as self studying through sportys or Gleim, intro flight, and rentals/flight instruction rates. I would recommend that you get your private first before even thinking about buying an airplane. First, you may give up on your pilot license. Second, you will get exposure to at least one airplane. And third, you will talk to other people about flying, airplanes, etc. at the airport and get more information. Flying aint cheap but as they say, if it flys, floats, or @#$%s, rent it!
 
I own a '61 Bonanza, and it's a fantastic cross country plane. You can find one for $45-70k that will serve you well, but that is down the road a bit. I would never rent a plane to get my ratings. It's just too expensive. You need hours of flight time, and it doesn't matter at this point whether it's in a Cessna or the space shuttle. Buy a Cessna 150 for $16,000, fly it for 150 hours, and sell it for $16,000 in a year. There are plenty of other beginning pilots that will sit next to you and pay for part of the cost.
 
I talked to some Trainers today that I know pretty good and they said in all reality you might as well Buy your own first, just like a C 150 or something similar($10- $30,000), because at least even if you do back out you can atleast sell the thing and not be out your $5000 bucks you paid to rent one. Then all you have to pay for is your instructor and test fees. I don't really know Cause i'm new to the whole thing but i've heard some bad stories about being under powered in those smaller planes.
 
They forgot to tell you about hanger fees, insurance costs, oils changes, spark plugs (which aren't cheap), tires, maintenance costs, fuel, etc. Especially unexpected stuff that pops up. I have heard that if you don't use a plane so many hours per year, then rental is better but don't remember the number of hours.
 
If your looking at buying your own stay with the smaller A/C at first like the C-150 or 152, cheaper to operate and maintain, look for one that is IFR certified for IFR training, better resale also. Stay with a 1975 to 1977 C-150 it's a safer A/C due to more rudder surface. 1978 to 1984 is the C-152 110 HP vs 100 HP on the C-150, IMO the 152 has the better engine. These A/C are great time builders.
 
if it flys, floats, or @#$%s, rent it!

This, and the advice to get your instrument as soon as practical after your initial, is the best advice in this thread.

Why are you so dead set on owning?







oh, and since no one else has said it: A private pilots certificate is a license to learn.
 
This, and the advice to get your instrument as soon as practical after your initial, is the best advice in this thread.

Why are you so dead set on owning?







oh, and since no one else has said it: A private pilots certificate is a license to learn.

And...forget everything your instructor tells you about what makes the airplane fly. Money makes the airplane fly.
 
My partner and me just made our first repair on our 47 year old bonanza in the 9 years we've owned it. A fuel sump valve started to leak a little. The part was $22, and it took a mechanic 10 minutes to replace it, because he was talking the whole time. You can absolutely get floored with repair expenses, but the smaller simpler planes are usually not too bad. At the local flight schools, they don't even have 150's or 152's for rent, so you have to rent a 172, for $78 an hour and up, plus monthly club dues. 150 hours of that equal roughly $12,000. Buy a plane for $16,000, and there are plenty of them available for that, spend $3,000 in fuel for 150 hours, $600 in tie-down fees at $50 a month, $1,200 in insurance, $150 for 3 oil changes, and fix whatever breaks, and you're less than half the cost. Find another pilot to sit next to you and chip in for fuel, and owning a plane for a short period of time can be much cheaper.Two or three people going together to buy a plane with a mid time engine solely to get their ratings and then sell it can be very inexpensive.
 
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You guys have V-tail 35's First plane I ever flew as a kid. Throw over yoke, fuel injected, pretty fast plane. I like low wing planes better. My shoulders are to wide to fly the 150 size planes if you have a pass. or if your flight instructor is very big. They aren't a very wide plane. I liked the 140 piper much better and more room.
 
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