Any performance difference between the 16T and 19T MCX kits both mapped to 310?

[sled-fiend]

Any other differences between an 06 MCX kit and last years MCX 290 kit besides turbo size? Both mapped to 310 would the performance be the same with the 19T being slightly slower to spool up? Thanx!

 

[Menace1]

19T

Im not a mechanic by any means but I believe the 19T would be more efficient as far as less heat and more air especially mapped to the higher boost program. I highly doubt you would notice anything as far as a slower spool up. Consider all the other brands out there with big turbos, no slow spool up time for those ones. Just my opinion.

 

[BBNytro]

X2^ supposed to be a 10% HP increase for the same boost number. The 19T compressor wheel is about .050" bigger, but it uses the same cartridge and exhaust turbine.

 

[sled-fiend]

So power will feel the same, 19T will be making it at lower boost though?

 

[zebiraross]

A 19t flows about 35 lb/min where the 16t flows about 30 lb/min. Each lb/min is about 10 hp. Any turbo that flows more air then another will make more power per lb/boost then a smaller turbo. The only time this doesn't hold true is if the smaller turbo has a higher pressure ratio then the larger turbo (uncommon), and this would only have effect at higher elevation. Both the 16 and 19t have a similar pressure ratio at about 3.0. Which is actually a good pressure ratio and a good thing when riding at higher elevation.

 

[gunnerthesnowman]

Im not a mechanic by any means but I believe the 19T would be more efficient as far as less heat and more air especially mapped to the higher boost program. I highly doubt you would notice anything as far as a slower spool up. Consider all the other brands out there with big turbos, no slow spool up time for those ones. Just my opinion.

X2^ supposed to be a 10% HP increase for the same boost number. The 19T compressor wheel is about .050" bigger, but it uses the same cartridge and exhaust turbine.

Is the exhaust turbine housing bigger , the only way for less heat is to have less back pressure on the turbo !

 

[noob]

Any other differences between an 06 MCX kit and last years MCX 290 kit besides turbo size? Both mapped to 310 would the performance be the same with the 19T being slightly slower to spool up? Thanx!

Spill the beans, what's this next project of yours. Did you find a nytro or go back to a apex??

 

[BBNytro]

Is the exhaust turbine housing bigger , the only way for less heat is to have less back pressure on the turbo !

No, the exhaust housings and turbine are the same! The TD04 turbo uses the same exhaust side from 13g to 19t, then goes to the TD05 for 20+ and so on.

Heat is your friend when you are talking turbines. So the best way to handle heat is to ceramic coat. The more heat that you can keep in the exhaust gases the more useable work can be done by the turbine and the higher the efficiency.

 

[zebiraross]

Turbine housings do run off heat. But there is a difference in getting a turbine housing to operating temp and having to small of a turbine housing are two different things. When you have to small a turbine housing you create back pressure. When you get to much back pressure your engine can not dispel the heat it needs. And if you build to much back pressure you loose power and leads to detonation.

If you have a bigger compressor wheel like the 19t vs 16t, the 19t wheel will be more effecient and give you a cooler intake charge so even though you have the same turbine housing the larger turbo will run your engine cooler.

 

[bigbird]

Anyone know where to get a 19T other than MC xpress? or what the mitsubishi part number is?

 

[Stewd]

I upgraded my apex from the 16t to the 19t and remapped to run at 16lbs. Lb to LB a significant difference in power. 19t had stronger response and overall stronger power feeling. I would recommend the upgrade for anyone with a 16t. I had mine rebuilt at Alamo Industries in calgary http://www.alamoturbochargers.com/

The machining only cost about $500 with existing housing.

Prince George Yamaha remapped for me.

 

[sled-fiend]

Spill the beans, what's this next project of yours. Did you find a nytro or go back to a apex??

Pm'd ya.

 

[sled-fiend]

Thanks for the responses, some good info coming out here.

 

[noob]

I upgraded my apex from the 16t to the 19t and remapped to run at 16lbs. Lb to LB a significant difference in power. 19t had stronger response and overall stronger power feeling. I would recommend the upgrade for anyone with a 16t. I had mine rebuilt at Alamo Industries in calgary http://www.alamoturbochargers.com/

The machining only cost about $500 with existing housing.

Prince George Yamaha remapped for me.

alright, let's see some pics of your new baby in the stall and reports of how she worked.

 

[gunnerthesnowman]

Turbine housings do run off heat. But there is a difference in getting a turbine housing to operating temp and having to small of a turbine housing are two different things. When you have to small a turbine housing you create back pressure. When you get to much back pressure your engine can not dispel the heat it needs. And if you build to much back pressure you loose power and leads to detonation.

If you have a bigger compressor wheel like the 19t vs 16t, the 19t wheel will be more effecient and give you a cooler intake charge so even though you have the same turbine housing the larger turbo will run your engine cooler.

Yes , heat is good , back pressure is bad .

 

[zebiraross]

I upgraded my apex from the 16t to the 19t and remapped to run at 16lbs. Lb to LB a significant difference in power. 19t had stronger response and overall stronger power feeling. I would recommend the upgrade for anyone with a 16t. I had mine rebuilt at Alamo Industries in calgary http://www.alamoturbochargers.com/

The machining only cost about $500 with existing housing.

Prince George Yamaha remapped for me.

So the machining was 500, how much was the new center section? Or did you manage to find a spare 19t compressor wheel and do the swap?

 

[Stewd]

$500 included Machining parts and all necessary components.

Noob,

New sled rocks was up to revvy on weekend and had a blast new pics coming soon.

 

[noob]

$500 included Machining parts and all necessary components.

Noob,

New sled rocks was up to revvy on weekend and had a blast new pics coming soon.

good to hear. keep her looking pretty when I sell this one and take that one off your hands.lol

 

[BBNytro]

So the machining was 500, how much was the new center section? Or did you manage to find a spare 19t compressor wheel and do the swap?

You can machine your cartridge to fit the new wheel .0495" more in the recess that the wheel runs in. Remember the nut on the wheel is left hand thread!!

 

[Thistledoo]

So is there any reason a guy couldnt do this to a nytro with a 16T??