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airframes tested!

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pura vida

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rode with the airframes on today for the first time. 2+ feet of nice soft snow, great testing conditions. rode for about three hours and most of a tank.

wow! do these things work well. i've used snow eliminators and better boards and they are both god sends compared to stock running boards, especially iq/edge/older models. but after just one ride i think the airframes out perform any other brand (although i've only had the two listed) i had pretty high expectations for the airframes and they did not disappoint! zero snow buildup, never had to kick the boards once, didn't even have to stomp them out. there just isn't enough there to allow the snow to collect. i could bury a side in a powder turn, come back flat, and the snow would just fall away before i would even consider stomping/kicking. traction is outstanding as well with the traction screws they provide. they are definitely stronger than the stock boards. i'm not a huge jumper but my stock boards were starting to bend. i doubt i'll have that issue with these. i am happy as a clam after my first ride. i think they are going to work flawlessly but if i discover any issues down the road, after i get some more miles on, i'll post it up.

i was afraid the traction screws were going to chew up my boots pretty fast but since i'm not kicking or even stomping i don't think this will actually be an issue. time will tell. the install also went well. great instructions. clear, good pictures, well written, and detailed. if you follow the directions you can't really screw it up. assuming you don't cut to much and leave yourself short on the inside lip. they also provided more than enough rivets and traction screws. the only "issue" i had was replacing the rivets that connect the boards to the rear suspension bracket. the instructions said to place the rivet in from the top, through the tube, and connect to the bracket. none of the rivets supplied were long enough to perform this. so i reversed it and put the rivet in from the bottom, plenty long then. i am going to get some vinyl on the sides of the tunnel b/c the snow can and does still stick to the aluminum. i was also considering trimming the plastic from the tub that now hangs into the first hole of the boards under the foot stirrup. thought snow might be able to collect here now since there is so much less material but that didn't seem to be an issue today. more "testing" will lead me to a decision. :)

well, that is long enough for now. i have a pic but don't have any place to host it... offers? i can email it. it really isn't that good of a pic but it was the best i could do (felt like doing anyway) today. or can someone explain how to embed a picture in a post? thanks

cory
 
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Nice review, looking forward to seeing a pic:D

You can attach pics directly form your computer by using the "Attachment Manager" located in the "Additional Options" area when you reply.:beer;
 
well, that is long enough for now. i have a pic but don't have any place to host it... offers? i can email it. it really isn't that good of a pic but it was the best i could do (felt like doing anyway) today. or can someone explain how to embed a picture in a post? thanks

cory

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OH YES YOU DO!

Your a paid premium member.
That means you already have a SNOWEST PHOTO ALBUM!!

Click on the USERCP in the main menu bar and choose PICTURES AND ALBUMS

Create your new album and start uploading!!


Chrstopher...would like YOUR take on your Air Frames now that it has been a year or so (?) since you did your re-fit to your Yammy.

Was it necessary in hind-sight to use the apoxy resin you used? It just seemed like a messy, unecessary process to me...I would have thought a few extra rivets might have done the job - so please correct me if I am wrong there

LG
 
General take.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM !

Without a doubt the single best modification I have made to my sled, BAR NONE!


About the epoxy.
Honestly can't tell you.
I know that for me, the boards work and are RIDGED & STIFF.
There is ZERO FLEX when my 230 pounds stands on them and the traction to my books is fantastic regardless of where I place them.

Foot control is beyond belief.

Would that be the same without the epoxy?
Honestly just don't know, but adding the epoxy really wasn't that big of a deal once I had the Epoxy Gun.

I guess we will just have to wait for me guys to do the install without it and report back if it is every bit as rigid/tight without it. Chances are, with the proper number of rivets, it will be JUST FINE without the added epoxy.
 
well, it seems i'm an idiot. no surprise there i guess... i'll have the pic up asap. thanks for the help.

i was also wondering about using the same glue polaris used on the frame but i didn't have any and honestly i don't think the advantage would be worth the effort, for me. they are very stiff. i put a rivet in every two inches. seems to be plenty.
 
Luke,

The epoxy that Christopher used is defiantly not "necessary" in the install of the Airframes to make them function.

It is actually not epoxy but rather the same snowmobile friendly Acrylic/filled adhesive that Polaris uses in the construction of their Pro-Chassis Bulkheads/tunnels.

The Lord 406 Adhesive as shown in Christopher's thread
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236889

Is pretty easy to work with and further ties the running board assembly to the chassis making everything stronger...plus easy to release if a repair is necessary.

When bonded together along with the rivets... the boards will actually become part of the tunnel in a monoque assembly and make the tunnel stronger as well.

This would be easy at a later date to drill out rivets and apply.

An analogy would be cabinet making... You can build a strong cabinet with just screws... but a stronger one with glue and screws.

Is the extra measure a necessity.. No.. will it make them stronger... yes.

Here is a primer on the 406 Lord adhesive info.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236325
 
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You photos are great...

I've noticed big improvements in snow shedding by simply applying vinyl film ("wrap") to the tunnel sides... this would help greatly in getting rid of the block at the rear.

You can also scuff and paint with POR-15 paint the foot stirrup bar and add plastic foot stirrup walls to the area like Mike Taylor did in his thread.

This would be true for Airframes or betterboards.

Thanks for posting this up.!

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I'm jealous... I'm laid up for a bit... and the snow is so deep in Tahoe it's difficult to get around... Nice job with the thread and the boards!!
 
hmm

Looks like what my old Fabcraft boards looked like, snow buildup wise..... Come to think of it, why haven't the boys at fabby come up with their own board setup, I beat mine to the point of cracking everything else BUT the boards..... Might have to drive down and ask em???
 
WNR,

I've talked to Mike about that on multiple occasions with no luck over the past few years.

Maybe "bend his ear" a bit more.
 
yeah

Seems to be a big market now for the Pro's

I imagine with the Fabby's you won't be saving any weight, at all!!!

But,

After bending or, breaking two or three sets of susp brackets, and cracking the Fabby tunnell, the boards still looked new!!!

They did need some traction help, so some screws in the edge were a must, shins didn't agree on occasion..

Oh, yeah, before F-bomb chimes in, I also love the BB's, just hold a touch more snow than the Fabby's.

How much and how long to install these AirFrames, look pretty sweet too...
 
thanks. definitely going to do some vinyl on both the top and sides of the tunnel. need to call articFX and see if they can do a custom wrap for me... maybe this summer when they aren't so busy. if i remember correctly it took me about 6 hours from start to finished but i had to make a couple 15 mile round trips to my shop b/c i kept forgetting needed tools. obviously i could do a second set much faster. i think a person needs to have 4 hours to do the job from start to finish, assuming they have all the needed tools. i think shipped to me in AK the total price was a little over $500. expensive but for me, worth it.
 
thanks, i think so too. i didn't weigh them but they definitely add some weight. a whole pound or two. maybe even three... nothing i'm worried about with how well they work and probably not anything more than any of the other boards would have.
 
The weight you gain is equalled out to the lose of the weight of the snow that's not on there anymore. It's a wash.
 
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