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Aftermarket A-Arms vs Simply replacing with stock

If you're in canada most places do not stock anything aftermarket, so if you bend an aftermarket arm your about 2 weeks with no sled. That brace kit with the stock arms would be my choice.
 
If you're in canada most places do not stock anything aftermarket, so if you bend an aftermarket arm your about 2 weeks with no sled. That brace kit with the stock arms would be my choice.

Not sure about the others, but you can run the stock width (39") Alt Impact arms in conjunction with stockers. The camber adjustment on the rod ends allows you to do this. (I did it for a season on my ski doo, 3 alt arms and 1 stock lower).

Lets think about this brace kit.....

You can spend $199 for braces for each side that help with certain impacts, but have no spare arms.

(Also, the brace is located in a spot that will not be impacted much, but if it does the square design will not slide over something as easily as a rounded design)

Or.....

You can spend $515 (a little more than twice as much money for you math whizzes) for alt impacts and receive:

Camber adjustment

Flexibility to run stock replacement arms

Breakable rod ends that get you up and running in 30 minutes ON THE MOUNTAIN (Yes i have experience with this)

A spare set of STOCK arms WITH the ball joints still in them


I'll let you guys decide for yourselves. I am in no way affiliated with alternative impact other than him taking my money the past few years, because its the aftermarket setup that flat out makes sense.
 
While I do appreciate guys creating a simply brace for the lower a arms, it just looks like a band aid on the sled and is an eye sore.It does what it is suppose to do(supports a weak design). But like stated above, you get so much more by purchasing a better built arms for strength and you always have those stock spares you pulled off, in the case you tear up you new tougher ones.
 
What length shocks will the 36-37" Alternative Impact kit accommodate? I'm currently on Walker Evan piggy backed shocks.



From what I understand .... it will 'accommodate' many different lengths of shocks...as many on here have used a wide variety of lengths.

I'm not sure what length shock will leave the front at the stock ride height, on the AXYS-Mtn sleds with this arm kit though.
I'm not sure if this is a big concern on the AXYS-Mtn or not... and would like to hear from those that have installed the kit if it matters and what
that measurement actually is...






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Well the brace kit is 200 canadian, that 515 u.s. comes to 700 canadian, plus shipping and duties, so probably close to 800. My buddy bent a kmod lower, I ordered it for him it came to 354 canadian, and took 12 days to my door. And you can always buy a stock one from a friends sled and order him a new one if he is working ?
 
Well the brace kit is 200 canadian, that 515 u.s. comes to 700 canadian, plus shipping and duties, so probably close to 800. My buddy bent a kmod lower, I ordered it for him it came to 354 canadian, and took 12 days to my door. And you can always buy a stock one from a friends sled and order him a new one if he is working



Always nice to have buddies sleds around to rob parts off of! If we didnt drive 12-24 hours to ride we could do that to, different situations, different means.
 
Well the brace kit is 200 canadian, that 515 u.s. comes to 700 canadian, plus shipping and duties, so probably close to 800. My buddy bent a kmod lower, I ordered it for him it came to 354 canadian, and took 12 days to my door. And you can always buy a stock one from a friends sled and order him a new one if he is working ?

Isn't socialism wonderful?

I just buy a whole spare set to keep in the trailer......
 
Not sure about the others, but you can run the stock width (39") Alt Impact arms in conjunction with stockers. The camber adjustment on the rod ends allows you to do this. (I did it for a season on my ski doo, 3 alt arms and 1 stock lower).

Yeah, mix'n'match.

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So in all fairness we need to compare apples to apples. My kit is complete with all hardware, no pressing bushings in or out of your stock arms. Our 36 inch kit is adjustable from 36 inch to 37 inch still being able to be centered on the spindles. This year we have the option of a heavy duty lower arm or the normal strength. What that amounts to is we bumped the lower arm rear main tube( using the new Docol )by one tube size. Not something your going to wipe the bulkhead out with. Rod end design gives you a shear point so on an impact "possibly" replacing a $18.50 part instead of an a arm.Rod ends on both upper and lower arms means a fair range of camber adjustment. Replacement lowers $185 (stock depending on location $230ish). Uppers $95. All moly kits have sway bar attachment. Our axys kits come with all new hardware. Zbroz you need to press out bushings from your stock arms and back in. Zbroz have arched lowers. [B]Unless they changed something recently on the 36" kit you cannot use the sway bar. Kmod I[/B] believe come with all hardware and sway bar tabs but no sheer point, no Docol material and about $150 more than ours. The skinz are a forward kit that could be a bonus with the pro but IMO unnecessary on an axys. Correct me on what I'm inaccurate with I'm going off memory. Price on the skinz was $1299.00 But comes with spindles and arched lowers.No clue what indivual replacement cost is on other brands. As you can see not a bash session, everyone just really needs all the real world info in front of them to make the purchase that best fits their needs. I'm sure I barely touched on everything but I think hit on the important ones. Thank you
Dan


A couple things on the Zbros Products

1. Replacement Zbroz arms are roughly $180 for lowers and $80 for uppers

2. All Axys 36" & 39" A-arm kits from Zbroz can utilize the stock sway bar.
 
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A couple things on the Zbros Products

1. Replacement Zbroz arms are roughly $180 for lowers and $80 for uppers

2. All Axys 36" & 39" A-arm kits from Zbroz can utilize the stock sway bar.

By roughly that means? I use the term as well but when it comes to something I sell I have exact prices. Not trying to be difficult just want to be very clear on comparison. Thank you
Dan
 
Not sure if they were aluminum steel or cromoly but I steer guys away from aluminum on the lowers. The weight savings or trying to save an arm are not worth that. I've noticed a lot of guys will ride on a bent one which is I guess fine to a point but it's certainly something to keep in mind if you decide to head down the trail especially hard pack whooped out trails. A little different than a glue joint coming apart on a bonded arm but none the less it's a good idea to check them over periodically especially if you are in the trees at all.
 
By roughly that means? I use the term as well but when it comes to something I sell I have exact prices. Not trying to be difficult just want to be very clear on comparison. Thank you
Dan

I couldn't find a single lower replacement price on their website but for both is 375 which would be $187.50 each.
 
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I bought the Alternative Impact a-arms this year, after Z-broz arms for some years. I really liked the possibility to change out the rod ends, because of possible downtime when loosing a arm.

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