After riding weight test

[eou_edu]

I've never really understood the point of "wet weight." For comparisons with sleds all that tells me is sometimes sled makers have different fluid capacities. Fluid is a constant and to me even figuring out the best MPG sled tells me you can loose some weight by putting less fuel in! I'm also afraid sled makers start making sleds with lower fluid capacities just so they can quote a lighter wet weight. 5 less lbs of gas is almost 40 lbs less weight!

The most interesting number to me is after riding weight to see how much snow and ice the sled likes to bring with it. I realize it's pretty subjective as it will vary with conditions, type of snow, riding, and just dumb luck. I know a long time ago yamaha viper did an after riding weight to show the viper wasn't as heavy as it seemed because it carried the least amount of snow. Artic cat did something similar with the pro climb as well. I hear the most complaints about polaris carrying the most amount of snow with them. Raw aluminum tunnel, coil spring shocks, larger tunnel cooler, design of the skid, running boards, all seem to play into how much snow it brings with it. I'd love to see arctic cat do an after ride test with the alpha one to show if it really sheds snow as well as they say it does.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

It's not 2015 anymore.

 

[hansenmac]

alpha rail helps when your stuck and and the skid is full of snow, or isn't with the alpha. the powder coated tunnels and short coolers also helped a ton. the polaris sleds without them were always coated in ice.

 

[eou_edu]

It's not 2015 anymore.

No idea what you mean

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

No idea what you mean

Just saying the characteristics of sleds have evolved. You were describing 2015 sleds.

Everything in your original post was hashed through on SW around that same time.

Lots of purchase justifications were tossed around.

Not much actual evidence.

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Thread 'Real world weights'

Mar 18, 2014

Ok, so now Yamaha has made a video just like Cat did last year claiming that their sled holds less snow than Ski Doo or Polaris. I call BS on both videos. Someone suggested that maybe someone who didn't work for the big 4 ought to make a video. Well I just ordered an 1,100 lb digital scale off of ebay. Admittedly it's a cheapy but I bet it will last long enough to weigh a few sleds. Anyone want to get together, go for a ride and weigh some sleds?

I ride a 2014 800 Pro RMK LE ES that is or will be by the end of the weekend fully powdercoated, painted or wrapped. I'm looking for some other...

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Thread 'khaos wet weight'

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Bone stock 850 155x 2.6 full wet was 511lbs..digi hanging scale

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[eou_edu]

Just saying the characteristics of sleds have evolved. You were describing 2015 sleds.

Everything in your original post was hashed through on SW around that same time.

Lots of purchase justifications were tossed around.

Not much actual evidence.

I'm not sure why you don't think weight after riding is not still relevant. It will always be a relevant thing. There's also plenty of people that still ride 2015ish sleds. I'm also not sure what you mean by "not much actual evidence." The evidence in the two referenced videos was weighing the sleds. No much evidence would be just two guys discussing their opinions. If the evidence presented was false or misleading that's another discussion but also why I'd like to see more of this out there. I really have brand preference myself. But certain things people will repeat over and over. I hear from polaris guys more than any other sled they carry a lot of snow with them.

 

[AndrettiDog]

5 gallons of gas weighs 32.5 lbs. That's a big difference compared to 40 when we are all talking about shaving a few pounds. Ski-Doo already drops 2 gallons from their fuel tanks from a few years back. I'm good with it as long as that doesn't mean I have to carry that weight in a fuel caddy. The bottom line is most of us can save a bunch of weight if we didn't carry it on us every day!

 

[GoBigParts]

Never hurts to start out with a lower dry weight though.

 

[christopher]

I'm not sure why you don't think weight after riding is not still relevant.

Because while it is relevant, it is WILDLY SUBJECTIVE.
Its not an objective point we can measure and compare against in any meaningful manner as it is SO HIGHLY DEPENDANT on your particular Temps/Snowpack/Riding Style.

Dry Weight is utterly Objective.
Wet Weight is almost objective, but does allow for manufacturers to have a Greater or Lesser Fluid Capacity.

 

[Jaynelson]

Never hurts to start out with a lower dry weight though.

Agreed that's why it's still the only number I use for comparisons. The wet weight is silly with different fluid capacities....you can put less fuel in a sled with a larger tank to even out fuel weights if you wish, but you can't put more fuel in a smaller tank.

The riding weight thing is tough as well...different snow conditions and different riding styles can carry substantially more/less snow/ice on the machine. And then accessory and riders weights of course - all affect weight and weight balances.

If you wish to compare the machines themselves....dry weight is the only thing constant enough to be worthwhile IMO.