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Adoption

but im adopted so everything you just said has no merit. is of no significance. no essence. your age affects all areas of you life in a negative way ;)

If I was your parents I would tell you and everyone else that you were adopted. There is no way in he11 I would claim you as my flesh and blood. Like I said, your sentence about the real kids being f'd up proves that you are not adopted. Remember documents can be faked. I'm sure that the story of your make believe mom being a crack whore, was made up to explain all of your mental issues to your parents friends and relatives.
 
I was adopted when I was 4 months old from Seoul, South Korea.

I'm not entirely sure of the process but I turned out okay.....

SMR. Chill out. I thought I was ignorant and stubborn until I met you. Just let it go.
 
My sis and I were both adopted and now my wife and I have adopted both our boys. DOmestic, newborn.
Similar process as PJ with the exception of the classes/counseling stuff. I refused to go to a parenting class when I'd be giving a child a better life than he/she would have had without me. I made my point that as the "adoptive" father I had a very important job that required my attendance over a counseling session if I intended to provide well for teh baby and with my wife being a ped/nicu nurse we didn't need any help in that department either.
Difficult part of the process is if you get chosen early on by a birth mom and have to be a part of their life (an/or keep them off drugs, etc) and still maintain civility with the intention of getting the baby. Well, that and failed adoptions, had 2 of them. Broke my wife's heart.
The fee's were $10k for the 1st kid 9 yrs ago and about $15k for the 2nd one 5 years ago. You do get a $10k tax credit though, so not a huge financial burden.
 
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Check with your employer too. They may offer some sort of adoption compensation. Mine does and they also pay you for any work missed, so you don't lose pay, vacation or sick time. It's just something they do because adopting domestically is about the coolest thing you can do. Nobody bashes adoptive parents.

Luckily our birth mother was clean, Just a young girl with no money. but on the flip side the birth father was a Class A loser and was/is in prison. Dealing with him was a PITA. He'd write asking for money, saying that if we didn't send him some he'd never sign over his parental rights. I saved those letters and gave them to the judge and agency. They signed the rights over for him.

Ours was also an open adoption, but she is not part of out lives. Her choice and I'm cool with it.
 
Adopting is probably one of the greatest things a person can do. Instead of bringing more children into this messed up world, you give a new life to children that already are here and wouldn't have a chance at a decent life other wise. Pretty cool.
 
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Your mom would... only she would give me the title of Husband, which would make me your daddy...

A prime example as to why Children should still get their asses beat when they misbehave. You are a fine example of the new "TIME OUT" discipline fail.
 
Anyone on here ever gone through the adoption process? Not step kids, but the international process?

Wife and I have been kicking it around for about a year now and we are starting to kick harder....

We know one family that has done it via China and we plan on talking with them, but like in all things the more info and knowledge we can gain the better.

Right now we just have basic questions like how do you find a place to work with/through?

Are certain countries or areas of the world easier to work with?

How long does it take?

What are the costs associated with the process?

Or anything else you learned along the way that you didn't expect.

Check with Katelyn's Fund. This group was started by a lady in our church after one of their twin daughters died before the adoption was complete. They should be able to give you a lot of advice. They might also have some funding available. http://katelynsfund.org/
 
A prime example as to why Children should still get their asses beat when they misbehave. You are a fine example of the new "TIME OUT" discipline fail.

other people can joke around but i cant???

jeeze the new snowest is sounding alot like the new america....
 
other people can joke around but i cant???

jeeze the new snowest is sounding alot like the new america....

I don't like jokes about adoption. And yeah other people do the same thing. The exception is that you cross the line several times each and every day. It get's old.
 
SuperJag,

Thanks man I will for sure send you some questions. My wifes aunt works with foster kids out in Oregon so she is getting some info for us, but having local state knowledge helps as well. I'll get questions from my wife and send them your way.

Thanks for the link BigAl. For sure cost is a huge huge factor for us. We have 3 kids of our own and my wife stays home so that is something we need to factor into our decision.

From what we have seen so far there are lots of places to apply for grants and I have even seen a few that will do a no interest loan. And that sounds very appealing. My work reimburses up to 10k for international and from what I am told you also get a huge junk back come tax time, so a no interest loan makes sense and makes it very doable.

I get what everyone says about going domestic, but I have seen more then one couple get raked over the coals by birth mothers, birth mother parents, etc. We have to consider if we do this, not only will it be my wife and I whose lives will be changing but also our 2, 3 and 7 year old....and I don't really know how you would explain to them that the new brother/sister they were gettting isn't coming anymore. Then again international does have lots of fees/paper work but I have talked to a few people who have done adoptions via an orphanage and not needed an agency which from what I see drives up the cost.

Also we liked the idea of international because we don't really feel like we want/need another infant in our family....but we think we may want another kiddo. Plus I'm about over diapers and pullups:face-icon-small-win
 
And for those of you turning this into a bash fest.....GET THE F OUTTA THE THREAD.




fawk I miss the old SW.
 
Xrated, there are literally 1000s of kids in this country that aren't infants or in diapers that need loving parents.

I commend the decision that you and the wife are making, just please take a look around locally. Go walk the halls of the local schools and you can see kids that need love, everyday. Check with your social services, enroll into a foster program to see first hand the kids that are smart and wonderful, just got handed a deck full of Jokers because Momma is a crack whore and Poppa is a wife beating alcoholic.

We all know that foreign kids need help too, but we as Americans must take care of our own first. I'd love to adopt again, but I want a baby.
 
I don't like jokes about adoption. And yeah other people do the same thing. The exception is that you cross the line several times each and every day. It get's old.

then yell at kbl6z...

and im sure you've crossed the line a couple times yourself, you arent a saint.

anyways...

adopt a kid from the US.

if theyre in a bad home already, its only going to get worse. anyone who has the means to adopt, and has a loving heart, has the best give any child can have. love and affection.

and bringing the child into a snowmobiling family, i dont see how it can get any better.
 
then yell at kbl6z...

and im sure you've crossed the line a couple times yourself, you arent a saint.

anyways...

adopt a kid from the US.

if theyre in a bad home already, its only going to get worse. anyone who has the means to adopt, and has a loving heart, has the best give any child can have. love and affection.

and bringing the child into a snowmobiling family, i dont see how it can get any better.

Yeah, but I don't cross it on a daily basis. Nobody is a saint. Alive, anyways.
 
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