access restrictions in our future?

[TIM]

polemite and jay

thanks for the info. I have found the same thing. I rode my mtn bike up to the wakefield trail trail head and met abunch of paragliders up there. they where out of silverton and where pretty good peeps. They where amazed i peddle up idaho peak and i was amazed they where going to jump off.

The kootenays are definalty one of the best playgrounds around. I would love to own a place in new denver.

tim

 

[polemite.productions]

don't tell anyone else

 

[Mafesto]

Everyone who reads this thread damned well better vote.
If you don't, you are a lazy crap pile.

 

[Red-eye]

I voted against backcountry closures and regs. Lisencing might be good if the government used the money directly back into avy education and search and rescue maybe, but they won't. Another internet licence won't help anyone be safer or wiser. Leave my freedom alone! I will fight for it!

 

[kane13]

Everyone who reads this thread damned well better vote.
If you don't, you are a lazy crap pile.

I voted results were 50-48 in our favour keep voting.

 

[Snow Monkey]

I voted NO.

 

[CatWoman]

Doing MUCH better than when I voted......it was overwhelmingly against us then.

Keep it up folks!

 

[teamti]

I can't believe how many people voted in favour of more regulation. That many people from Toronto read the Nelson daily website? Only half-joking sadly.

And yeah --- don't tell anyone about New Denver. It's a nowhere cracker town with ****ty snow and terrible trails and there's big rabbits with fierce eyes around there who will hunt you down./

 

[Jaynelson]

polemite and jay

thanks for the info. I have found the same thing. I rode my mtn bike up to the wakefield trail trail head and met abunch of paragliders up there. they where out of silverton and where pretty good peeps. They where amazed i peddle up idaho peak and i was amazed they where going to jump off.

The kootenays are definalty one of the best playgrounds around. I would love to own a place in new denver.

tim

No prob, I love it here and could yack about it all day! Slocan valley is definetly awesome....really can't complain living anywhere around Slocan, Arrow or Kootenay Lakes. Just gotta find work that accomodates the damned real estate prices. Even tho it's kind of the middle of nowhere, it's really only a couple hours to jam to Spokane area which is nice.

 

[caper11]

I voted no!!!

I posted some this in another thread but Wanted to share it here as well.

Now the accident in Revy was Terrible and alot of mistakes were made. why I dunno, i not here to point fingers but the person controlling the throttle controls his own fate and that is HIS/Her choice, some people are better at reading the mountain than others and commen sence, skill, and experience plays a huge factor in that, regardless of the conditions.
But I can tell you this the media beat the backcountry sledders bad over this, calling us crazy and irresponsible because, they don't understand what we feel when we pull the perfect line or shread 4ft of fresh pow in a meadow on a bluebird sky day, looking at the beautiful BC scenery that most will never see.
Yes It was a black day for us BUT don't forget the most Important part of the accident. The SAR did a fantastic job on the hill that weekend and my hat's off to you, BUT SAR were not the first on the scene the SLEDDERS were!!! The Media left that important part out, with the panic and the fear that all those people indured after the slide they still came together and did a great gob in forming a probe line and carried out searches. Between the SAR and the Sledder rescues and considering the amount of people caught in the slide, I think you all know what I'm getting at.

 

[dycker]

I voted no!!!

I posted some this in another thread but Wanted to share it here as well.

Now the accident in Revy was Terrible and alot of mistakes were made. why I dunno, i not here to point fingers but the person controlling the throttle controls his own fate and that is HIS/Her choice, some people are better at reading the mountain than others and commen sence, skill, and experience plays a huge factor in that, regardless of the conditions.
But I can tell you this the media beat the backcountry sledders bad over this, calling us crazy and irresponsible because, they don't understand what we feel when we pull the perfect line or shread 4ft of fresh pow in a meadow on a bluebird sky day, looking at the beautiful BC scenery that most will never see.
Yes It was a black day for us BUT don't forget the most Important part of the accident. The SAR did a fantastic job on the hill that weekend and my hat's off to you, BUT SAR were not the first on the scene the SLEDDERS were!!! The Media left that important part out, with the panic and the fear that all those people indured after the slide they still came together and did a great gob in forming a probe line and carried out searches. Between the SAR and the Sledder rescues and considering the amount of people caught in the slide, I think you all know what I'm getting at.

Yes sledders do deserve credit for the rescue effort, but no matter what, the best story would have been no story at all. At the end of the day, this accident happened because bad choices were made. Not just one bad choice but a whole series of them. Individuals decided to climb an unstable slope and a whole group decided to watch this take place at the bottom in the run out zone. And the thing is, a lot of these people had avalanche training, I'm sure a good number even read the avalanche reports. So whats it going to take to make people use this info?

I do not want to see regulations added to backcountry snowmobiling. Maybe people would think twice about there actions if they knew that S&R was going to send them a bill for the cost of a rescue?

 

[Red-eye]

What about the innocent that get a big fat bill from S&R?

 

[MacDawg productions]

This is a load of horse dung!!

I feel for the families and friends that are effected by the deaths and injuries of avalanches. But tell me this, how the heck is having the government regulate, and control us snowmobilers by making us license and insure our units, going to make any damn difference in avalanche statistics??????? It's just a way for the province to get their greasy hands on our money. And also give people who don't ride, false hope that things are going to improve in regards to deaths in the back country. Come on guys. This is the kind of stuff that's going to kill our sport. Pretty soon, the police will be pulling us over for random check stops to see if we have our sleds licensed when they are in the back of our trucks!!!!!! They are killing us! I wear my transceiver, pack a shovel, and probe, and have my Avy 1 course under my belt, what more can the government provide me by regulating the backcountry? Lets let the province really step up, and provide enthusiasts with a subsidy for an avy course?? Any ideas on that one? Educate. Not regulate.

 

[Duke]

Access restrictions would be a mistake, it will just push people farther into the backcountry, need to increase awareness and training. Manditory? Despite the last couple of incidents I truely believe we are moving in the right direction. IMO the avalanche conditions this year are the worst I've ever seen and up until the BIS weekend we were doing pretty well for incidents. I see alot of people holding back when the risk is high. I hope everyone makes an effort to stick to simpler terrain for the rest of the season. Play Safe

AA

 

[Duke]

I think the government should pass legislation that would make it illegal to enter any backcountry avalanche terrain without an AST certificate and a working beacon vs passing any other legislation restricting access. I think snowmobile clubs should decline the sale of trail passes to sledders that cannot produce both. I cant believe people still access the backcountry without a beacon. Also amazed at how many people still use old analog beacons, not adequate IMO for 99% of people during a search.

 

[teamti]

Kash Heed article casts some light on what is coming down the pipe

http://www.opinion250.com/blog/view/15866/1/avalanche+safety+starts+with+the+individual

In combination with increased awareness, by November 2011 we will have new policies in place for off-road vehicles (ORVs), including snowmobiles, which will assist riders with the safe operation of their recreational machines. These include mandatory vehicle registration of all ORVs at sale and resale, a licence plate or decal to identify irresponsible ORV riders and track stolen ORVs and an expanded definition of ORVs that will allow local government to enact bylaws such as restricting access, setting noise levels and designating specific trails.

As well, all ORV riders will be required to wear a helmet and use lights for low-visibility conditions on Crown land, including road rights of way. Additional measures will also be brought in to better protect youth under 16 years of age, such as adult supervision, appropriately sized machines for age and weight, and reduced speed limits.

 

[scaredycat]

Kash Heed

WTF is an ORV? Ive heard of an ATV or a UTV or an OHV but i guess thats not enough...Lets make up another one..lol

Im going to go ride in BC 2 -3 times a year and stupid BC politicians think im getting insurance and im also going to pay to register my sled? LMAO sorry folks i think Kashinder is truly mistaken. I would pay to see his AZZ on a ORV. lol

Lets keep rolling over and taking it up the AZZ folks. Pretty soon we wont be able to go outside without a permit..lol

Alberta is worse for the BS...Everything is now a park but guess what...the malls are open. Fat kids everywhere.

Yeah Im mad..no need to ask me why.