2023 Timbersled
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QDT will fit all aro,/riot kits and will be sold as an accessory.
To answer JR, riot does not get the skinny rails or the new track. The Riot PRO gets QDT and the new lighter driver. Drivers alone are a pound lighter.
so 2024 may see skinny riots?
I’m surprised they spent more time redesigning the aro3 chassis seems like everyone has switched over to the riot. They basically just copied what other companies have done for years with the narrow rails and belt drive. I’m sure next year they will have an upgraded spindle.
I looked into putting the narrow rail yeti track on my Riot, but the suspensions doesn't lend itself to narrowing the rails. My guess is that is why only the Aro got the new track and narrow rails. I think the playfulness of the Riot makes the narrow rails less necessary.
Anybody have thoughts why timbersled only offers the ARO 129 in sport and sport s versions and the ARO 137 only in a premium version?
my guess is they will drop the 137 eventually. Idk how much it sells and word on the hill is the 129 tracks beat it anyhow. There will be few guys still wanting them but maybe not enough to justify the cost of production.
should call it Gen Yeti instead of Gen 2 
seriously though, I bet it will be a great kit...
seriously though, I bet it will be a great kit...
Yah, i think the new Aro3 will be a winner too.
I cant see TS releasing a 137 3". No bike can handle it. A 450 has a hell of a time holding rmp in 2nd gear with a 129 3" as it is. Too much traction
I cant see TS releasing a 137 3". No bike can handle it. A 450 has a hell of a time holding rmp in 2nd gear with a 129 3" as it is. Too much traction
Also so new Gen 2 track on the new ARO 3
this from Allen Mangum answers your question (from Facebook Timbersled/Yeti snowbike forum):
Allen Mangum
Ken Lazeroff The 22 ARO and 23 ARO are the same suspension geometry with exception of the narrower rail. They have simply removed the rear arm from the 23. You can do this to any ARO by removing the arm and placing a spacer on the shaft where the arm was.
You can just remove the arm and add a spacer in its place as mentioned above. I think its a 7lb weight loss.
Had a buddy do this last season and he lost a bearing shortly afterward - not saying that removing the arm was the cause but it certainly could have been.
The shorter riot/120r style subframe and new side panels are more rigid to help with removing the rear arm.
Was told the belt drive upgrade for my riot 3S pro would be about $650 retail.I am thinking about going that route. Not sure it will be worth it for me to snow check this year. Very intrigued by the new aro however. Was told it is a good mix between the previous arrow and the riot. Stoked that there will be a couple in my group so i can compare.
I installed the TKI belt drive in my Riot 3S pro this year.....I like the gear options Tom has with the kit.
What kind of differences did you notice? Did you gear it up or down?
The stock TKI gearing was 30/30 so I started with 13/18 primary. At this time I am awaiting the 29 and 31 tooth sprockets so I haven't been able to play with gearing yet. At present my set-up is a 2020 KTM 450 sx-f Factory with the 22 Riot 3S pro. At 7,500 ft in 3 ft of pow I'm in second gear pulling hills at about 8,000 rpm and that's all she has so I want to try something different for that situation. When playing in about a ft of pow on base it seems to do well but will it do better with gearing? I'm looking forward to trying a 30/31, I want more usable gears in the hills. On the trails I'm easily using all gears however I didn't get the kit for trails.
I have an old timbersled 137 (big guy) and I was playing on my buddies ARO 3 and I dig the 3" track it rips. So I am thinking of a snow check and for 2023 I would be going with one of the premium kits 129 with the belt drive. I don't get the difference for 2023 between the Riot and the ARO. I am pretty hard on these things and seem to tweak a set of 137 side panels every year on my 137 and keep them in stock at home so durability probably means more than anything else. Anyway with the ARO rails being narrowed up what is the difference?
Thank You.
Thank You.
Anything will ride better than what you are on now. I sold my 137 TS 5 or 6 years ago when I gave up on my CR500 and it was a great day, adios to all the crap. My buddy who is also a big guy switched to a 129 Aro 3 and wouldn't go back back to a 137. The narrow rail thing is where its at. In a season or 2 my bet is there won't be any wide rail offerings from anyone. Camso started it all with the monorail like the Artic Cat Alpha (they co own the monorail patent). When Camso purchased Yeti the first thing they did was narrow it up. You will find that the bike moves side to side so much easier than your old setup. The new Yeti is effortless in the tight trees same as a Camso. You ride it with your legs against the seat and tank vs only steering the bars. As a big guy you probably don't feel it as much as a lighter guy but it takes effort to turn an old TS 137. There's a reason why the new Aro is a Yeti knock off, because it flat out works. I cant speak to the durability of the new kits but my buddies Aro 3 has been rock solid, way better than our old farm yard TS kits, we started making our own 6061 tunnel sides. The new Yeti front spindle is amazing, I'm not sure if the new TS has an updated geometry or not.
I'd be looking long and hard at that new Aro 3 pro I think its going to rip, if it turns out you hate it, it will be an easy resell.
M5
I'd be looking long and hard at that new Aro 3 pro I think its going to rip, if it turns out you hate it, it will be an easy resell.
M5
The suspension geometry between the Riot and the Aro is different. The Aro is still the planted and stable kit where the Riot is still the playful/dirtbike like ride.
The Aro keeps the same geometry that it has always had. Compared to the 2022 Aro 3 you should experience a quicker spool up due to the lighter track and drivers and a little easier and quicker side to side transition due to the narrow rails on the 2023 Aro3.
Also, only the PRO kits get the QDT. If you're snowchecking the Pro kits are the way to go, the QS3-IBP shocks on the Pro kits are night and day better than the QS3 on the premiums.
