I know that, but if the Cat was 30lbs lighter in the shop it would be 30lbs lighter on the snow too, right?
2019 sled weigh off
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I know that, but if the Cat was 30lbs lighter in the shop it would be 30lbs lighter on the snow too, right?
LOL... I just like giving you a hard time.
Point is, rtr weight isn’t everything, but still matters in the end.
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snowmobiler
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shouldnt we weigh a doo x model thats 10 pounds lighter......no.LOL
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The fact of the matter is
The doo 850 will need 10 more hp just to be close to the patriot.The doo drive line suffers from the p wobble back
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its 540 pounds, so 3.375 lbs/hp on the alpha.
penalty: add two pounds of snow in your spindles. we'll forget about the skid for right now.
Ya did that one already with gravel on the Pro and snow packed under the hood
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snowmobiler
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You some kind of engineer ?? The new spindle has not been riden yet !!
Your Not a Textron Barney Cat owner are you ??
maybe just add the weight of an additional 2 gallons of gas since the doo doo has a smaller gas tank and smaller oil tank. . .?
hahaha! That was an epic FAIL!! I think that "fake news" kind of backfired on them.
those #s actually surprised me !
i didn't think cat/poo/doo were that far a part
Interesting
so if the doo X is 5-10lbs lighter and the poo 3'' is 5-10lbs
heavier that still doesn't address the 2 gallons of fuel
well done polaris on weight
time will tell on everything else
i didn't think cat/poo/doo were that far a part
Interesting
so if the doo X is 5-10lbs lighter and the poo 3'' is 5-10lbs
heavier that still doesn't address the 2 gallons of fuel
well done polaris on weight
time will tell on everything else
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snowmobiler
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no tether on the poo.thats a pound right there
If all were weighed DRY, that would be by far the most accurate. As we can see, there are varying sizes of gas and oil tanks. Doo doo started the RTR or "wet weight" a few years because they looked better (weight wise) due to the smaller gas and oil tanks. Their reasoning, at that time, was that the doo got better fuel mileage, and we all know how inaccurate that was! LOL.
There is a reason why the Mfgs. go by a DRY weight as that is the most accurate, . . . by far!
I'd agree that dry weight is better for a true comparison, and I'd prefer manufacturers stuck with dry weight to avoid the temptation to cut corners. RTR weight still matters, but only if the typical user isn't forced to routinely carry extra gas and oil. I think the gas tank should be big enough for a day of typical riding (though that gets murky in a mountain sled), and the oil tank should be worth at least three tanks of gas – just to spit-ball some things. Room for, say, three more gallons of gas and another quart of oil will add a couple pounds, perhaps? I'd gladly accept that, even if it means I don't fill the tank half the time. I personally don't carry gas; I've got a 600, and usually get a pretty good day of riding out of a tank. A small tank might not matter to a guy who carries gas to stash before the aggressive stuff, but even some of them wouldn't say no to a bigger (internal) tank.
Probably more into the weeds, but chasing wet weight could also lead you to cutting too much cooling capacity (heard of issues on the Pros) and maybe even skimping on chaincase oil. Obviously the engineers should have that figured out and be making the right compromises, but when they're told "I want the lightest sled, and I don't care what it takes," the results aren't always so great...
Probably more into the weeds, but chasing wet weight could also lead you to cutting too much cooling capacity (heard of issues on the Pros) and maybe even skimping on chaincase oil. Obviously the engineers should have that figured out and be making the right compromises, but when they're told "I want the lightest sled, and I don't care what it takes," the results aren't always so great...
Bear some good points
i will say all my buddies ride 800s poo and doo
i'd say 3/4s of the time extra fuel isn't needed
i personally only used my spare fuel once last season
i did come home on fumes a couple times
point being I'd guess a big percentage don't need spare fuel
at all
this all goes out the window if it's super deep of course
then you have to use all the fuel plus spare and still head back early but it's so worth it !
i will say all my buddies ride 800s poo and doo
i'd say 3/4s of the time extra fuel isn't needed
i personally only used my spare fuel once last season
i did come home on fumes a couple times
point being I'd guess a big percentage don't need spare fuel
at all
this all goes out the window if it's super deep of course
then you have to use all the fuel plus spare and still head back early but it's so worth it !
The alpha is kind of a different beast. I know there are more 'regular' models but I bet any one of those are close or heavier than the G4.
And the polaris sleds still bend a arms easier, have shocks that go to shlt faster, tracks that fall apart sooner and tunnels that bend easier. Still props on building them so light. They'll be light until you need to replace something. Somebody needs to push the envelope after all.
And the polaris sleds still bend a arms easier, have shocks that go to shlt faster, tracks that fall apart sooner and tunnels that bend easier. Still props on building them so light. They'll be light until you need to replace something. Somebody needs to push the envelope after all.
The AC tunnel folds like a tin can, and Polaris a-arms are new this year.
