2014 RAM 1500 TURBO DIESEL V6

[ndC7M8]

The Jeep diesels net better power and economy as do the VW Jettas that are diesels. And you can actually drive them with no worries of lack of power.

The jeep can get close to 30 and the Jetta gets over 50. So why not a 1/2 ton? And if you delete that Emission crap you can get back to over 20. And IMO, 18 MPG ain't bad for a full size pickup. You won't see a 3/4 ton gasser getting that.

This is a concept that several people seem to be having a hard time grasping. It's a smaller frame, lower to the ground, lighter-duty vehicle. So how can you speculate that its smaller displacement engine won't be able to achieve better MPGs than the 6.7s and the 6.6 in the large frame heavy-duty trucks?

The whole idea behind small diesels in lighter vehicles is for mileage and keeping some power around when you need it. Like Chrysler would really pull the trigger on a project like this if it wasn't gonna be more economical and fulfill the need of truck owners not looking to purchase the rougher-riding 3/4 & up machines. I'm sure this new pickup will offer half-ton owners a chance at a better cruising speed mileage and more linear power when they hook on to their boat or sled trailer.

 

[Ten-Zing]

It's cool.

I'd be more jacked if it was an equal displacement(4liter range) inline 4 or 5 cylinder. IMHO that is what makes the Cummins so sweet, inline engine.

Be nice to commute a truck during the week, getting close to 30 for mpg. On the weekend, hook up the trailer, crank the boost, get high 20's hauling the light toys. (boat, sleds, etc) This addresses most folks in the half ton market.

This is why the discussion becomes so mundane. Diesels to this point are in 3/4 tons and up, so people think diesel is for hauling big payload. We're talking more EFFICIENT half ton duty trucks here. Not a half ton pretending to be a 3/4 ton just cause it has a diesel engine.

If gas is $4, diesel $5, then a diesel would need 25% better mpg than the gasser, so gasser at 20mpg, diesel need 25mpg to break even. Offer the diesel at no premium over gasser and make sure it gets higher than 25mpg?

 

[ndC7M8]

Looks like GM could be using the same engine in half ton Chevy and GMC models!

A little inside info on the engine itself.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/

 

[AZ800]

Thing is, diesels stay truer to their mileage claims as you load them up or tow with them than gassers.
Both my diesels in CC 4wd trucks get or got a legit 18+ hwy, 17 city and 12-14 towing 4-6 klbs hi profile trailers.
Never had a gasser any brand that got more than about 12mpg avg empty less than 10 Mpg towing. Except my newest Ford.
Even my 2011 F150 5.0 2wd that I thought I was averaging about 17 mpg on dropped to less than 15mpg once I got rid of the little oe tires that were throwing the speedo off.
If the little diesel in the 1500 ram can average 25 mpg hiway it will be a huge success IMO. What's not to like about 10mpg better and some decent torque?
Plus that little diesel should be 1 chip away from 300 hp and 500+ tq.
Now all of a sudden it embarrasses every other half ton on the road both in mileage and power.
While I love my big diesel pickups and won't turn them in for the 1500 diesel for a long time, I'm the perfect candidate for one just like most other weekend warriors. Lots of towing and hauling but not too heavy and still is a commuter truck too.
To judge the 1/2 ton diesel market, I just bought and flipped (sold) a 94 Chevy 1500 turbo diesel 6.5L. Had people lined up to buy it and sold it for honestly more than I thought it was worth considering the 6.5s are not very highly regarded. At the same time the comparable 2500 6.5s for sale did not sell.
In fact I told a cpl of the potential buyers that didn't get my truck about the nice 2500s for sale in the area and they were only interested in the 1500.

 

[bucky919]

The Jeep diesels net better power and economy as do the VW Jettas that are diesels. And you can actually drive them with no worries of lack of power.

The jeep can get close to 30 and the Jetta gets over 50. So why not a 1/2 ton? And if you delete that Emission crap you can get back to over 20. And IMO, 18 MPG ain't bad for a full size pickup. You won't see a 3/4 ton gasser getting that.

Jeep get over 30mpg? A guy I ride sled with has an 2007 Jeep grand cherokee and he only averages 20mpg.

 

[GlennRMK]

This engine in the 4wd Grand Cherokee is rated 20 MPG city/28 MPG highway.

I would guesstimate low to mid 20s real world in the half ton.

I am stoked about this. I will test drive one when they come out without question.

This may replace my Ecoboost.

I like the Ecoboost, but if the mileage is signifigantly better I will gladly make the swtich.

My Ecoboost can muster 17-19 MPG highway taking it easy, and 10-12 MPG towing 5-7k. But if I can increase that to like 22-25 MPG and 15 MPG towing, that would be great. About 25% of my miles are towing.

 

[tadder52]

I need a 5/8 ton pick up. I can't justify the 3/4 ton and the 1/2 just leaves a little to be desired. Airbag the 1/2 pick up with a diesel motor (as long as it has a decent transmission) and you have a 5/8 ton pick up!

And I would buy one!

 

[skidoorulz]

I need a 5/8 ton pick up. I can't justify the 3/4 ton and the 1/2 just leaves a little to be desired. Airbag the 1/2 pick up with a diesel motor (as long as it has a decent transmission) and you have a 5/8 ton pick up!

And I would buy one!

What everyone is forgetting is the Dodge 1/2 ton has air ride suspension that is adjustable for loads. It also has an 8 speed auto that will be behind the diesel. I think it will sell.

 

[Jaynelson]

I always thought the first manufacturer to market with a 1/2 ton diesel would have something. I'll be surprised if its not a good seller. It's gonna steal some market share from the others whether you like it or not.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

Jeep get over 30mpg? A guy I ride sled with has an 2007 Jeep grand cherokee and he only averages 20mpg.

Is it a diesel?? If so, he has some major tuning issues. My 2003 F250 7.3l diesel gets better than that

 

[Mopar21277]

I'm disappointed that the 4.2L V6 or 5.6L V8 Cummins aren't the engine of choice, I understand using the Italian engine due to FIAT, but I'd really like to see the domestically produced Cummins. Thanks to Cerebus (hedge fund hyenas) running Chrysler Financial and Chrysler into the ground in 2008, for killing the 1/2 ton Cummins diesel project into the ground, which was likely ready to go for 2009 or 2010.

This engine had better be amazing, or else the project will be a flop. Ford could have a marketing field day with comparing the Ecoboost to this diesel (more HP, less $$$, likely significantly better performance). If Ford needs to, they can launch their 4.4L Powerstroke, which is 300+ hp and 500+ ft-lbs torque.

There is a market for a 1/2 ton diesel, as long as it isn't a $7500 option. The Ram is already about $4K less than an F150, so the Ram diesel could be similar an Eco F150. With the 8spd tranny, they can easily run 3.20 gears, so fuel mileage should be very good, while still offering plenty of low end performance.

 

[scootdog]

I've always been a GM guy but if dodge can get 25mpg combined mileage I'm sold.

have had 3 different GMC 1500 5.3L gasser they all have gone 250K plus on original engine and tranny. Current ride has 260K been waiting for Gm to build the small deisel that was supposed to come out in 2010 before bankruptcy, talk was 30mpg. I get 16/17mpg in my 2001 it's a joke that 2013 trucks AVG 18mpg. A decade of technology yields 1 mpg. Love GM but I'll switch if they don't improve mpg.

 

[Flygti32]

I love this idea for a 1/2 tonne truck. If I can have have ride and handling of a 1500 with diesel power that would be awesome. I tow a camper in summer maybe 4 times a year with boat and quad. In winter maybe 4-5 trips with two place trailer 1-2 hour away from home. the rest of the time, it's hauling kids around town etc etc. I can't justify buying a 3/4 or 1 tonne for that.

 

[milehighassassin]

I've always been a GM guy but if dodge can get 25mpg combined mileage I'm sold.

have had 3 different GMC 1500 5.3L gasser they all have gone 250K plus on original engine and tranny. Current ride has 260K been waiting for Gm to build the small deisel that was supposed to come out in 2010 before bankruptcy, talk was 30mpg. I get 16/17mpg in my 2001 it's a joke that 2013 trucks AVG 18mpg. A decade of technology yields 1 mpg. Love GM but I'll switch if they don't improve mpg.

Well GM owns 50% of the company that is making the diesel for Chrysler, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns into a joint motor development with both of them using it.



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[cjfox]

I've always been a GM guy but if dodge can get 25mpg combined mileage I'm sold.

have had 3 different GMC 1500 5.3L gasser they all have gone 250K plus on original engine and tranny. Current ride has 260K been waiting for Gm to build the small deisel that was supposed to come out in 2010 before bankruptcy, talk was 30mpg. I get 16/17mpg in my 2001 it's a joke that 2013 trucks AVG 18mpg. A decade of technology yields 1 mpg. Love GM but I'll switch if they don't improve mpg.

This may open the flood gates, i bet we see all 3 (ford,gm,dodge) in another year with 1/2ton diesel. duramax 4.8L i saw in mags a while back for there concepts or vans? i hope this is true it would be huge! hell yota might even make one since there full blown america haha. but ill wait and see with GM making new cabs this year who knows what else they have to bring. be so nice to get a suburben with a dmax combo, buddy has a excersusion 6.0 and by far the nicest ride to go riding! for the ppl in the back seat.

 

[mud99]

Nissan Titan was supposed to get a cummins for 2014, but that got pushed back to 2015.

I would definitely get a diesel 1500. Here in CA diesel and premium gas are usually the same price. With the 600 mile range it also lets me fuel up in cheaper places.

It would make a sweet upgrade for my 2001 tacoma, I don't always want to drive the 3500 dually around, and the mileage is better by a lot.

Also, a small diesel like this wont have the same maintenance cost as the full size trucks. The full size trucks are overbuilt, the diesel 1500 should have pretty ordinary maintenance costs.

 

[Dartos]

I am curious on the price of the diesel option.

$8,000 for the Cummins is outrageous. Then in Utah you get to spend an extra 50 cents to a dollar more for diesel fuel.

The real sad thing is I got better mileage with my 2002 Dodge diesel than what the new ones are getting.

 

[ndC7M8]

I am curious on the price of the diesel option.

$8,000 for the Cummins is outrageous. Then in Utah you get to spend an extra 50 cents to a dollar more for diesel fuel.

The real sad thing is I got better mileage with my 2002 Dodge diesel than what the new ones are getting.

that's why I wanna sell my sad excuse of a diesel '12 ram and downgrade a few years lol

 

[XRS MXZ]

Ram Eco Diesel

Pricing on the Eco based on the Jeep as an upgrade is $4995 cdn I hope in the half ton it stays in that range. JUST like a 2 stroke, Diesel just gets the adrenaline going. RAM.

 

[Mafesto]

I would be more excited about a V8 Ecoboost..........in an Expedition.