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^What he said.The 12s had a 40 inch ski stance the 13s had a 38 inch the kits come with the upper a arm and new style spindle they have a kit for the 40 inch 12 sleds but if you want to convert your 12 to 38 inch with new style spindle you will need a new lower a arm and the 3/4 inch spacer for your shocks to go with the kit