Just double your order kris and get me one while your at it! Lol
2012 Carbon fiber proclimb 800 project
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Just double your order kris and get me one while your at it! Lol
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WKR
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noooooo
no, youd have to make it with a helium tube frame and attach a hot air balloon to make it light enough with carbon lol!!! just kidding (or am I???). not enough demand, when you look at sled purchased, there are far more 800 2 strokes purchased than 4 strokes and thus C3 looks to go after the highest percentage of market share available, just a business decision, nothing against yammies. you can build an 800 cat that weighs under 400lbs and has 200hp for $25000, which is extremely economical for that kind of power to weight.
no, youd have to make it with a helium tube frame and attach a hot air balloon to make it light enough with carbon lol!!! just kidding (or am I???). not enough demand, when you look at sled purchased, there are far more 800 2 strokes purchased than 4 strokes and thus C3 looks to go after the highest percentage of market share available, just a business decision, nothing against yammies. you can build an 800 cat that weighs under 400lbs and has 200hp for $25000, which is extremely economical for that kind of power to weight.
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should add this sled is $40000 for those wandering. I could build a version of it for $30000 having done it once now. it would still be around 420lbs and 250hp. there are some more eco skid options. as well as turbo options. could also get it under 400lbs with a few more mods quite easily.
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WKR
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you got any pics of that nypex? would love to see it, i have never heard nor saw anything branded yamaha under 500 pounds, but that may just be my limited exposure to the yamaha's. I would consider riding a nitro if it could be brought down to 460. Very interested to see one of these units, so please post a link if you could. thanks.
I have a digital dyno scale here at work. I will pick one up with the forklift and take some pics. I was going to fill her full of fuel, extra quart of oil, and tool kit, and see what it weighs ready to ride. Then we can do the math and pull the weights for a "dry" weight. I believe Fuji's Nypex from CR Racing is around 460ish as well. I think Chad already weighed that one "dry". Many of the same components on both sleds so they would be close. I think Fuji is running reverse so that would be a few pounds. They should be close though. We also have a stroker nytro that we want to weigh. Could be a few pounds lighter with the nytro engine. Also going to weigh the "old" apex and see what it weighs as well.
This is a pic of the stroker.
This is a pic of the stroker.
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Here is the link to Fuji's. This sled is running moly and carbon. The stroker is running Ti and carbon and without reverse so the orange sled should be lighter.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259464
Says 620 full.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259464
Says 620 full.
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WKR
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yes i saw these, sick sleds, randy's is over 40g to build and is nowhere near 460lbs. I have talked to a couple of guys who built the titanium nypexs, but they are way over 40g to build and the lightest anyone has reported was in the jsut a touch under 500lbs. making the claim of 460lbs 400hp for 25g is impressive but lets see some supporting facts and not because i am trying to rag on you but simply because i am very interested as i am sure there are many others who would be as well.
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Going West
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460 and 620 are practically the same. I can see how you could easily confuse the two.
And to do that for 10 15 thousand, what a steal. Sign me up for two.
Come on now! The 620 number is wet and full of fuel. Doing the math and pulling the fuel and oil, dropping the reverse, going. Ti and fiber instead of moly, throw a 162 track instead of 174 and your already below 500. I said 460ish and 25-30K. The 460ish number would be a dry number just as the above claims are dry numbers. So I might be 480 for 30K. That is why I left a little wiggle room. With Paul's resources I can get ahold of a cheap nytro bulkhead and apex engine. If someone else were to gather the parts it might be more. It might be less too. I'm not trying to sell sleds here, just saying what could be done. I started with a simple question about the drive and wkr decided to jabb the yammies. When I get a chance I will weigh the sleds like I said I would. Let's see the scale on the carbon fiber units you have. Sounds like your numbers are "ish" as well. Using the smart phone I can't read the scale above. What does it say anyway? BTW, I think you have an awesome build. Not knocking your product, in fact I would love to have one of yours and one of Paul's in my stable!
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No worries, not trying to insult anyone here either. i will alsways take jabbs at yammies, just the way it goes. The pic of the scales says 407.5lbs. This sled will be 480lbs full of fuel when it is 100% complete. Its certainly not the lightest out there but will do the trick for me. Again do not take any of this chit personal, to many people get to offended by the words we type, they seem to always read to far into the script and feel that it is directed at them personally. My remarks above are directed at no one in particular, no more than spouting out some retort about yammies with my buddies around the table with beer in hand. Lots of guys I ride with are on boosted yammies and they work. doen't matter though, i will always remind them of the name on the side of there sleds as i shovel there asses out! lol cheers!
Right on! How much do you ride Revy? Would love to see the machine in action. I come up to Revy 3 or 4 times a year. Let's go for a ride........
Then we will see who is digging who out!!!! LOL!
Cheers! You might just end up selling me one of those sweet machines!
BTW, what are the gearing choices for the Pro on that drive?
Then we will see who is digging who out!!!! LOL!
Cheers! You might just end up selling me one of those sweet machines!
BTW, what are the gearing choices for the Pro on that drive?
Nytro is on hold till there is enough people to put a deposit down
I would like to see some info on that 300 hp 800 would that be 22# boost?
How long would it hold together?
How long would it hold together?
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Going West
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Don't know how accurate it is, but OVS is claiming 288 at 14 psi
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knifedge
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--Why even consider building a sled for 25K plus on a chassis design that is outdated? I understand the HP potential of the 3 or 4 cyl motor, but really, the chassis design is outdated regardless of what it is made of. Kind of like building out a Chevelle because it has a 396 -- straight line only. --Imagine that kind of money put into a M1100T -- overall, alot more capable sled for alot less money. M1100T is more capable in every area compared to Yamaha, except maybe max HP potential.
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