2010 rumors?
- Thread starter SAWYER
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50lb lighter than??? Chassis? More details please!
Not saying they're not doing it, but does it really matter what crazy rumors everybody has heard.by the time the 2010 sleds come out, everybodies heard all these rumors and expect them to be true. Then the sleds are revealed and most people let down, cuz the the 50lb weight loss was actually 30, or the horse power only 165. i don't care what anybody says, we'll all know when they come out.
Sleds have been getting liter for years. every year they advertise their sleds are liter. My 85 phazer was posted at 398 lbs. How can they be liter. Soon they should weigh nothing.
very true dont get it eather.
I ran into some Yamaha engineers on the hill this year. (so they claimed) Ask them about any plans to built lighter sleds. Interesting response.
They said the same thing we have been hearing from guys riding the Apexes for a couple years. In their opinion once you get above 300 pds, very few people if any have the strength to manuver a sled around. In other words as far as human strength goes you can't lift 300 pds and better then you can lift 700 pds. Any ability to throw it around after that comes from the HP created by the sled, and the balance of the sled. They were convinced that the future of sleds was not in how much they weigh, it was in how well they were balanced and how smooth the HP was.
They also claimed there research has shown that the weight of the Apex was of very little concern to the guys who own and ride them. They believe the weight issue is being driven by guys who have never been willing to give the Yamaha a good honest try.
While other manufactures are spending there time and money trying to build lighter sleds, Yamaha is putting their time and money into building sleds that handle better so that the weigh can be easily handled by the balance and smooth HP band.
Yes, I did ask them about getting stuck. They laugh and said if you get stuck enough times in a day to worry about it, you better get a few more friends or ride a Ski Doo.
I don't even know if these guys where for real, but they were on sleds with no paint or color and they looked very similar to an Apex. The front ends were shorter and the skids were different then anything I have ever seen. They were not rude, but they actually ask us not to ask questions about the sleds they were riding.
They said the same thing we have been hearing from guys riding the Apexes for a couple years. In their opinion once you get above 300 pds, very few people if any have the strength to manuver a sled around. In other words as far as human strength goes you can't lift 300 pds and better then you can lift 700 pds. Any ability to throw it around after that comes from the HP created by the sled, and the balance of the sled. They were convinced that the future of sleds was not in how much they weigh, it was in how well they were balanced and how smooth the HP was.
They also claimed there research has shown that the weight of the Apex was of very little concern to the guys who own and ride them. They believe the weight issue is being driven by guys who have never been willing to give the Yamaha a good honest try.
While other manufactures are spending there time and money trying to build lighter sleds, Yamaha is putting their time and money into building sleds that handle better so that the weigh can be easily handled by the balance and smooth HP band.
Yes, I did ask them about getting stuck. They laugh and said if you get stuck enough times in a day to worry about it, you better get a few more friends or ride a Ski Doo.
I don't even know if these guys where for real, but they were on sleds with no paint or color and they looked very similar to an Apex. The front ends were shorter and the skids were different then anything I have ever seen. They were not rude, but they actually ask us not to ask questions about the sleds they were riding.
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HANDSOME
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I can see there point to an extent, in order to hold a 150lbs engine you need a wrapper that withstand the elements involved with snowmobiling. There is allways room to lighten them up a little but its important to keep a good ballance. I have 80 lbs out of my RX1 but I bet it is way out of ballance compared to a Nytro. 4 strokes are heavier than 2 strokes and thats the way it will be for a long time. So lets make them feel light and stay durable.
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BigFish BC
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i guess somebody really needs to tell them good shocks are part of a great handling sled
i personally dont mind the weight dont notice it when i ride.
i guess somebody really needs to tell them good shocks are part of a great handling sled
Hard to get a more true statement then that!
Were you @ Cooke or the Snowies???
Just wondering where you were riding? Yamaha did a great job of keeping a low profile in the Snowies this year! Couldn't get answers from Cody!!!
Just wondering where you were riding? Yamaha did a great job of keeping a low profile in the Snowies this year! Couldn't get answers from Cody!!!
Its true.... Yamaha is selling their 2010 sleds without a track option. That accounts for the reduced weight and allows you to pick the exact track you want to run.....
The 185 hp sounds sweet.
Cody and the Yami crew were in the Snowies early this season. Before the snow even set up a base. We came accross the Yami rigs and photo guy's, but didn't see anything to report on. I like the suspense anyway. Keeps me from jumping out and buying a first year sled. Learned my lesson after snow checking the RX-1. Like the XP guys learned this year..lol
The 185 hp sounds sweet.
Cody and the Yami crew were in the Snowies early this season. Before the snow even set up a base. We came accross the Yami rigs and photo guy's, but didn't see anything to report on. I like the suspense anyway. Keeps me from jumping out and buying a first year sled. Learned my lesson after snow checking the RX-1. Like the XP guys learned this year..lol
