my 08 m1000 leaves mouths wide open.i have been asked if it has a turbo.i cant imagine a turbo on a well tunned 1000.
2009 M1000 Sno Pro - Still king of the mountain?
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Ride a 1000 in deep powder and you'll really question why you ever wanted an 8. The torque makes an unbelievable difference when taking off from a stop and climbing.
Frosty, you had mentioned that there as many more reviews of the M8 being so great than the M1000. The M8 is competing against all the other brands, and it has been the lowest powered in the 800 class for the last couple of years. There are more reviews on the 800 than the 1000 because the 800 has direct competition. I never thought I would want a 1000 till I rode one. Now I'll never go back.
Frosty, you had mentioned that there as many more reviews of the M8 being so great than the M1000. The M8 is competing against all the other brands, and it has been the lowest powered in the 800 class for the last couple of years. There are more reviews on the 800 than the 1000 because the 800 has direct competition. I never thought I would want a 1000 till I rode one. Now I'll never go back.
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bradburck
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Ditto... the 800 has the direct competition... but holy sh!!... the 1000 just pulls and pulls man... and the weight to me really isn't an issue!! I could NEVER imagine going back down to less sled... There is NO substitute for HP's... and the 1000 just makes them... get the clutch's dialed in (just like ANY other sled) and you're good to go man... Just try not to hurt your neck looking back...
I agree with you. I love the power too. That's why I bought a 1000 last time around (RX-1M). I know it's (140 something hp) is nothing compared to that of a M1000 but, I wanted the power.
This time around, I'm a bit older, maybe, maybe not wiser, and at this point in my life making the high mark no longer means much to me. Yes I love the appeal of a powerful sled but, I don't want a one dimensional "point and shoot" sled this time around. I want powerful sled that slices and dices through the trees right where I need to be by what feels like merely my thought process. Yet, will wheelie over the crest of hill and leave me exilerated!
This time around, I'm a bit older, maybe, maybe not wiser, and at this point in my life making the high mark no longer means much to me. Yes I love the appeal of a powerful sled but, I don't want a one dimensional "point and shoot" sled this time around. I want powerful sled that slices and dices through the trees right where I need to be by what feels like merely my thought process. Yet, will wheelie over the crest of hill and leave me exilerated!
Sounds like the m1000 is calling your name! Pull the trigger bud!
I've obviously pulled a lot of weight off my 2008, which has made it that much better. But man, this sled is fun! I get stuck a 1/4 of the amount i did on my m7 and m9 and this thing can dial up power with skis in the air at will! I love it.
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Yup, it may very well be THE sled.
The demo ride with both the M8 and the M1000 will tell me a lot.
How does the fuel and oil economy of the M1000 compare to the M8?
I hear some are gearing down the M1000 to the same gearing as the M8. I assume this is to help with clutch heat issues?
How reliable are the M1000 (engines, clutches and belts) compared to the M8?
The demo ride with both the M8 and the M1000 will tell me a lot.
How does the fuel and oil economy of the M1000 compare to the M8?
I hear some are gearing down the M1000 to the same gearing as the M8. I assume this is to help with clutch heat issues?
How reliable are the M1000 (engines, clutches and belts) compared to the M8?
Okay, I know those are the important questions to ask, but what you are describing, you should buy the 1000. In my opinion they are just as reliable as the 8's, fuel and oil economy are no worse (engine isn't working as hard), and I haven't had any issues with clutch heat or belts thus far. I'm not a highmarker by any means, but the grunt of the 1000 in deep powder makes an unbelievable difference.
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Klimbing Kitty
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They only gear down so they can keep the track speed high at the top of steep pulls.
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bradburck
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can and a boss seat take off what? 25 lbs? So now we're close to 470 dry? Which means its only 20 lbs heavier than the 800... now you factor in rider weight, and all fluids and you're looking at an entire riding package that is upwards of 700-750 lbs. Depending on your weight... so does 20 extra lbs really make THAT much difference? now we're talking less than 7-8% difference... BUT... you're getting 25+ more horse, and the torgue makes a HUGE difference at elevation...
Lets put it this way... there has NEVER been a time where I got off my sled after a long climb, or boondock ride and said to myself... "sh#t... that's just tooooo much power"
Get the 1000 and don't look back, trust me, NO REGRETS!!!
Lets put it this way... there has NEVER been a time where I got off my sled after a long climb, or boondock ride and said to myself... "sh#t... that's just tooooo much power"
Get the 1000 and don't look back, trust me, NO REGRETS!!!
slp pipe system, bd box, drops 16lbs the difference between a m8 and m1000 is listed as 31lbs so your 15lbs heavier and putting out 50 more horse power. Ride that then get on a m8 all you'll notice is the powers gone.
Ok, you guys have convinced me.
Now in the next month or so, I expect to see some amazing deals on 2009 M1000's. I'll be waiting in the weeds to harvest one (unless the changes for 2010 are just too good to pass up).
It will be a white 2009 M1000 Sno Pro 162". I actually like the decals on the 2008 better but, ArcticFX can take care of that. I'm thinking a brand new one with a two year warranty for $8,000 to $8,999 should be witin the realm of possibility.
Let me know when you hear of a deal.
Now in the next month or so, I expect to see some amazing deals on 2009 M1000's. I'll be waiting in the weeds to harvest one (unless the changes for 2010 are just too good to pass up).
It will be a white 2009 M1000 Sno Pro 162". I actually like the decals on the 2008 better but, ArcticFX can take care of that. I'm thinking a brand new one with a two year warranty for $8,000 to $8,999 should be witin the realm of possibility.
Let me know when you hear of a deal.
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samiams2
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What are the suspension adjustments? We are just dying to know.
Like Frosty I am new to Cat - 09 M8 SP, but throw in new to sledding as well - 1 year. I am a smaller guy 5'8" 160, but I ride a big dirtbike, a KTM 450 and I LOVE it. Smaller bikes don't have anywhere near the grunt and get deflected too much in rough terrain for me. I really can't tell the difference in weight from my previous bike a 250, but I sure love the power better on the 450. At the end of this year I sure hope I am not wishing I bought a 09 M1000, but I fear I might. I've been telling several friends who are 225+ that they are crazy to not go with a M1000, but they think they will like the 8 better, we will see.
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anybody that would put a boss seat and a can on there 1000 would do the same if they bought a 800 so you havn't gained a thing by comparison.
Wow.........this post came out of nowhere from the past! I just got a '08-M1000 and have only gotten to ride it once. I think I have a couple things to figure out on it. Mainly clutching. I came off of a 900RMK for the past 2 seasons, and it seemed to run just as strong or stronger than this 1000 does. To me, half the fun is dialing them in and making them work for you though. The most confusing thing to me is everyone has different opinions on clutching and suspension settings and so on. Makes it harder to weed through everything and come to your own conclusion. It came with the Cutler clutching and I'm thinking about going to RKT. Overall though I like it and will get it dialed.
Aaron
Aaron
Wow, this is an oldie but goodie from last Spring.
Long story short, I was fortunate enough to ride both a 09 M8 Sno Pro 153" and a 09 M1000 Sno Pro 162" back to back the same day last spring.
Maybe it was the 162" length track or maybe it was the demo M1000 suspension hadn't been adjusted properly (as digging this old thread up is trying to discover) but, the M8 demo I rode felt light and nimble and the M1000 demo felt like it had it's 30 extra pounds strapped to the front bumper. The M1000 didn't lift its nose when the throttle was nailed and seemed to spin the 162" powerclaw before eventually hooking up.
The M8 felt like a small block V8 that snapped to attention, the track hooked up hard and lifted the nose of sled in the air very quickly and the sled was gone. The M1000 accelerated much more like a big block or diesel and seemed to pull forever but, without the initial hit with the skis springing into the sky like the M8.
We even lined them up at the bottom of a hill and the M8 snapped its skis in the air and was gone way in front of the spinning M1000 off the line but, I believe the M1000 may have been catching the M8 but, we had to let off in a couple hundred yards.
I was looking for a boondocker and not a mountain crusher when I was sled shopping last spring so the choice was easy for me.
Before I rode the sleds that day I had myself convinced I wanted a M1000 Sno Pro and I'd still love to ride a well setup M1000 some day. I think they are capable of far more performance than any non turboed M8, yet the one I rode left me scratching my head and buying its little brother.
Go figure...........
FYI -
I believe one of the tricks for the M1000 rear suspenion is to drill out the lower holes for the front skid bolts and put the bolts in the lower holes (the additional holes can only be seen from inside the tunnel). This makes the front end much lighter feeling and makes the nose of the sled more prone to lifting (jumping a snow covered log) when the throttle is nailed. I seem to remember that leaving the rear skid bolt in the stock hole was recommended (but I may be mistaken on that one). The tip is in Snowtech.
Long story short, I was fortunate enough to ride both a 09 M8 Sno Pro 153" and a 09 M1000 Sno Pro 162" back to back the same day last spring.
Maybe it was the 162" length track or maybe it was the demo M1000 suspension hadn't been adjusted properly (as digging this old thread up is trying to discover) but, the M8 demo I rode felt light and nimble and the M1000 demo felt like it had it's 30 extra pounds strapped to the front bumper. The M1000 didn't lift its nose when the throttle was nailed and seemed to spin the 162" powerclaw before eventually hooking up.
The M8 felt like a small block V8 that snapped to attention, the track hooked up hard and lifted the nose of sled in the air very quickly and the sled was gone. The M1000 accelerated much more like a big block or diesel and seemed to pull forever but, without the initial hit with the skis springing into the sky like the M8.
We even lined them up at the bottom of a hill and the M8 snapped its skis in the air and was gone way in front of the spinning M1000 off the line but, I believe the M1000 may have been catching the M8 but, we had to let off in a couple hundred yards.
I was looking for a boondocker and not a mountain crusher when I was sled shopping last spring so the choice was easy for me.
Before I rode the sleds that day I had myself convinced I wanted a M1000 Sno Pro and I'd still love to ride a well setup M1000 some day. I think they are capable of far more performance than any non turboed M8, yet the one I rode left me scratching my head and buying its little brother.
Go figure...........
FYI -
I believe one of the tricks for the M1000 rear suspenion is to drill out the lower holes for the front skid bolts and put the bolts in the lower holes (the additional holes can only be seen from inside the tunnel). This makes the front end much lighter feeling and makes the nose of the sled more prone to lifting (jumping a snow covered log) when the throttle is nailed. I seem to remember that leaving the rear skid bolt in the stock hole was recommended (but I may be mistaken on that one). The tip is in Snowtech.
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Dano702
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That is what i was thinking , and i ride a race gas 8 . A race gas M1 is all i dream about . But i am 6'1'' and weigh in at 200 lbs , so maybe i am a bit heavy.
I can't really feel the weight difference between the '09 1000 and the '10 8 that everyone talks about. I've got a T-nytro making in excess of 300 HP and my '09 1000 SP is still my favorite to ride. In my opinion the '09 or '10 M1000 is the finest Mtn. snowmobile built by one of the "big 4" to date.......$.02.
That is what i was thinking , and i ride a race gas 8 . A race gas M1 is all i dream about . But i am 6'1'' and weigh in at 200 lbs , so maybe i am a bit heavy.
imagine having a n/a 09 m1000 and being 250 pounds of weight lifting goodness
i think i'd kill someone for a turbo hahai'm very glad i went with the 1000 last year. with it being mostly stock, i feel it's a little under powered, i can't imagine how the m8 would be.... BORING. I'm sure that is due to my weight though
Vernon
