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2008 Dragon 155 what can and suspension to get.

The Alpha X is really for big HP sleds to keep the nose down so if you don't plan on putting a turbo on it the regular Holz would be just fine I would think (if cost is an issue, it was for me). I know everybody wants there sled to stand up tall and proud and look cool but the fact of the matter is that it wont float in deep stuff as well if the suspension is that stiff. That's why I say get adjustable and you can have it stiff in crappy snow conditions and soft when you need it to float in the powder. Guess it depends on what you are looking for though.

Actually.... Mark Holz, in an interview with SledHeads magazine last year said that he designed the Alpha-X for superior handling.... not to accomodate the High Hp riders that like to point it straight up the hill.

I spoke with Mark on the phone in spring 2009 and he said that Alpha would be better than the previous model Holz suspension that needed an additional transfer shock to keep the front end down, but High HP climbers is not what he designed the skid for.... although Erin Beukelman, A Holz/Struthers sponsored rider has been doing well on the RMSHA circuit with a cranked up version of the Alpha in naturally aspirated sleds.

F-Bomb has an Alpha X on his mod 800 IQ-RMK and swears by it.

Winter on the Forums here swears by the many EZ-Ryde skids that he has been installing in his beautiful IQR conversions.. and the late Rick Ward was very successful with the EZ in his RMSHA events

One of my good friends runs his Alpha X on a T-D8 and likes it.

Many of the Thunderstruck riders on super high HP turbo sleds are running the T-sled skid with great results and have been running them for a couple of years now. Rob Hoff, a very aggressive freerider has the T-sled in his sled.

The EZ-ride and Alpha X are about 5 lbs heavier than the Timbersled.
 
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Hello all. I am tired of my saggy suspension and bottoming out. I have gone to the dealer and had my shocks recharged. Also I have purchased the stronger springs for the rear. Both things helped but It is still saggy as hell. This now means I am going to buy a new rear suspension for my sled and don't know who to go with? If you guys have any ideas and/or suggestions please comment. Also I would like to buy a new can. Ideas? Thanks in advance.

The following is from Curt at Fastrax on the Sag/Fat boy spring issue from another thread. I installed these springs on my '09 D8 this past fall. They were a little stiff at first, but have softened up now with some use. Super happy with them(I go 250 geared up) They have a 47* preload angle instead of 77*. Polaris also offers the .359/47* if you are under 220 geared up:

You should also consider the 7042079/7042080 torsion set. They use a tighter spring leg angle which gives you a little more preload at the top of the skids travel.This helps a couple things...it allows you to run the spring on a softer setting and still supports you and the sled properly which extends the life of the spring. The spring will also have more effect at the beginning of travel which helps eliminate the dead spot all these skids have-this unsprung/undampened area of travel is a big reason why the IQ was a bit on the wild side with weight transfer-to much scissor collapse right off the bat.
These are our go to springs for any one over 220#(which I'm one of by the way!) I have a full season on them in my turbo 163 and they are still on the soft setting-haven't had to add any more pre load since installation which indicates that they are not "sacking out".

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Hello all. I am tired of my saggy suspension and bottoming out. I have gone to the dealer and had my shocks recharged. Also I have purchased the stronger springs for the rear. Both things helped but It is still saggy as hell. This now means I am going to buy a new rear suspension for my sled and don't know who to go with? If you guys have any ideas and/or suggestions please comment. Also I would like to buy a new can. Ideas? Thanks in advance.

Regardless of the suspension (Holz is good) get the SLP can so you don't have to worry about Poo warrantying your motor when it goes down again. Just my .02.
 
Actually.... Mark Holz, in an interview with SledHeads magazine last year said that he designed the Alpha-X for superior handling.... not to accomodate the High Hp riders that like to point it straight up the hill.

I spoke with Mark on the phone in spring 2009 and he said that Alpha would be better than the previous model Holz suspension that needed an additional transfer shock to keep the front end down, but High HP climbers is not what he designed the skid for.... although Erin Beukelman, A Holz/Struthers sponsored rider has been doing well on the RMSHA circuit with a cranked up version of the Alpha in naturally aspirated sleds.

Didn't mean that Holz Alpha X was only good for high HP sleds, just meant that the original would suffice if he didn't plan on big HP. Original would have saved some $. I am sure the X is bad a$$ but I couldn't afford it. I would still have stock if Mark hadn't put the original on sale couple years ago.
 
Sully, I hear ya... this stuff is killin me...The Holz series 1 skids were one helluva good deal when they were blowing them out.

I just installed my Timbersled Mountain Tamer-X today...

Cant wait to try it out in Alpine this week.
 
Thanks Guys!

Well I think I have made my decision. I am going to buy the timbersled rear and then get the Float R Evol shocks for the front. As well for my can I am going with SLP. thanks for all your suggestions and ideas.
 
Good call on the Timberled skid. The Mountain Tamer works great.

Keep us posted on your installs.. Ask if you need any further suggestions.

Good luck!

akrevrider
 
I will deffiantly keep you guys updated.

Yeah I am super excited to get this thing installed. Should be good!
 
I've run both the Holz and the Mountain Tamer....and the....

TAMER WINS!

There's absolutely NO comparison as far as the Ride goes....!

If you want to run slightly better than stock (ride-wise)....then buy the Holz. I've run both...the Tamer lives up to it's name.

Cheers,

: )
 
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