2 Wheels..VS 4 wheels Rear Axle

[Rick!]

If you break those wheels I will be very impressed, I did a Finite Element Analysis on AutoDesk Inventor, and the plastic wheels are amazingly strong....up to 10 times stronger than most over-sized aluminum aftermarket bling type wheels, using my testing parameters.

For so long we have been making two wheel kits for three and four wheel OEM configurations, why would you want to "de-invent the wheel" so to speak.

I would think if you break a wheel, you will have broken an axle AND bent rails by then.....

Maybe do the same thing on the SlyDogs. I have a hunch you'll see why the other dude had failures with his. Need all three F's to be successful.

Now, OTOH, if I bring a spare a-arm, spare wheel and axle, spare VR, spare belt, extra fuel, tool box, avy kit, gps, SPOT, sat phone, backpack with overnite supplies, a coupla hot pockets, a paddle ball game, this chair, and this thermos, do I have all I need for a day's fun on the hill??????

 

[flying frenchman]

The only reason they went to two wheels was all a sales gimmick, yes it will side hill better, NOT. It's all in sled set-up and the driver. Hey remove one wheel at $29 per wheel the sled makers save a pile of money, eg. 10000sleds x $29=$290000. It's the big picture they see in the end $$$$$$$$$. 4 wheels = better rolling resistance.

 

[1Mike900]

Remember I think everyone is talking with 4 wheels inside the frame rails? They will all fit there like a Cat HCR. Then I do believe with all that bearing area on a shorter axle it will be quite stout! Mike

 

[Slick]

The only reason they went to two wheels was all a sales gimmick, yes it will side hill better, NOT. It's all in sled set-up and the driver. Hey remove one wheel at $29 per wheel the sled makers save a pile of money, eg. 10000sleds x $29=$290000. It's the big picture they see in the end $$$$$$$$$. 4 wheels = better rolling resistance.

well that may be a part of it but, i believe they also reacted to what they saw. guys all ove were pulling off the outside wheels for whatever benefit they perceived it was and as can be expected the manufacturers reacted to that. Hey if they put 1 on, guys would put 4 more on , if they put 6 on guys would go down to 2. we just gotta change things man, LOL. Its who we are. And all four builders do an awesome job of exploiting that fact. And hey , it makes the world go round.

 

[Insaneboltrounder/sjohns]

Its a cutsey fad.... anyone who thinks a sled with no outer wheels side hills better also believes in the easter bunny and most dyno charts

 

[2manytoys11]

NM: I have been designing building and selling Two wheel kits since 2004. See at edgeworksid.com. 8" diameter wheels make the biggest improvement in track speed. Aluminum wheels have a lower coefficient of friction. For Grass Snow and Asphalt drag racing 4) aluminum wheels get you the fastest track speed and a faster trap speed, for trail and boon docking, 2) Aluminum wheels give you lower unsprung weight. If you have to run a tight track, 4) Aluminum wheels will use less power to drive. Most of our test have been done in Asphalt drags, as we have much more consistent conditions. And Accurate !/4 mile speeds e.t's Trap speeds and ten foot times, to compare results. Hope this helps.

 

[ak49er]

Maybe do the same thing on the SlyDogs. I have a hunch you'll see why the other dude had failures with his. Need all three F's to be successful.

I'm lost, how did Sly Dogs and some mystery "dude"and his failures come into play? The reference escapes me.

And what are the three F's?

 

[barry1me]

If you break those wheels I will be very impressed, I did a Finite Element Analysis on AutoDesk Inventor, and the plastic wheels are amazingly strong....up to 10 times stronger than most over-sized aluminum aftermarket bling type wheels, using my testing parameters.

For so long we have been making two wheel kits for three and four wheel OEM configurations, why would you want to "de-invent the wheel" so to speak.

I would think if you break a wheel, you will have broken an axle AND bent rails by then.....

agreed! I know of a few guys that there 'bling' billet wheels didnt even last a season. I have owned several sleds and am yet to break a wheel.

 

[NapaMatt]

I was watching SCHOOLED and Again..

pretty sure Bret.. Runs 4 wheels..


Anyone... Put 4 Wheels on the PRO at all??

 

[AK Soul]

It is amazing to see that people believe that polaris went to a two wheel kit to cut cost.... Really? And if you think thank moving the wheels inside the rails doesnt improve the sidehilling flickability factor you must be riding ditches in minnesota. The stock wheels are pretty cheesy no doubt but I have bent my rails from a hard landing drop and the wheels were fine.

 

[Brett Slagle]

Does anyone make a kit to put 3 or 4 wheels across, but all inside of the rail? I've seen that on a few sleds on here, but I don't think I've ever seen one for sale. That is the ideal set-up I think.

 

[sledhed]

Didn't Cat have some track longevity issues when they went to 2 wheels years ago on mountain sleds? I remember hearing something about them delaminating or something, from not having that support at the outside edge. Think they warrantied some of them...

Because of that a guy I ride with sometimes put 4 wheels on his 08 D8 163. And he is a sidehilling machine...

 

[NapaMatt]

Does anyone make a kit to put 3 or 4 wheels across, but all inside of the rail? I've seen that on a few sleds on here, but I don't think I've ever seen one for sale. That is the ideal set-up I think.

Because Polaris and the Middle Driver..

We can't run 3 wheels inside of rails..

we can do 4 total wheels..

Anyone else running 4 wheels??

 

[flying frenchman]

The best part of my 4 wheel kit is rolling resistance, looking at a track with no wheels, the track look octagone shaped and with the wheel the track take the form of the whell. Another good thing is being able to tell my buddies that their rmks lost a wheel. Makes them look everytime. lol.