1000sdi has flooded and will not start, calling technical people for help

[the doctor]

bought three 1000 rt 162's and brought them home, was going to pick the best two for me and the old lady. I soon discovered which were the best two. All of them are 05's. rode the one into the garage, idle was rough on it and it dyed. trying to start it and the plugs keep getting wet. Floods itself big time. have emptied fuel out of exhaust several times as working on it and trying to get it to start. I have traded everything from one sled to another, every sensor,injectors, throttle bodies, ecm. checked ignition and timing, ok. I am retired from general motors and worked for them throughtout the late 80's and early'90's. I have the knowledge of fuel injection and these systems are as basic as you can get. everything seems to check out( compression, reeds, battery) but it will not even attemped to start. Just came from my dealer, buds did nothing and All I got to hear about was 2 1/2 hours of how ****ty the 1000 is and they could do nothing for me, so here I am sled back home(do you know how hard it is to load these sleds byyourself if they dont run) and wondering how to put carbs on it. Anyways one thing that has also plagued me was it is susposed to turn off the fuel injectors if you hold the throttle wide open. It does not so I ended up pulling the fuses for the injectors and pulling until the rope broke and rotated four sets of plugs five times through it until the plugs would no longer get wet, during this process I had a timing light to check if the spark was accuring at the right time, it was. would you not think that it would at least try to fire once?

 

[the doctor]

lastest observations

the problem sled just had the 10/06 update done which they told me was the 07 mapping, what I didnt like is that they could not tell me what is currently in the ecm for programing? so the other two sleds are running good and I have no idea what is programed in them??
I just started from the beginning again and cleaned out the engine exchanged the battery from another sled(new battery). did not help.
what I did was remove the injector rail and observe the injectors while pulling. all injectors were pulseing to some degree? faster I pulled it wanted to spray more . I thought only the outers were supposed to fire until a certain rpm? now I held the throttle wide open to see if it cut out the fuel. It increased it, alot. I thought that would be more controlled by rpm? not tps degree?

 

[the doctor]

holding throttle to cut off fuel

has anyone verified this process for flooded engines?

 

[NITROSKIDUDE]

I had a flooding prble,but could eventualy get it to start. After dumping the pipe a couple times to. But My prob was due to a bad Boodockers control box,that had a shourt in it. Tried the 07 program in mine and the dealer said it was the first they saw that wouldn't take it without the o2 sensor installed. A rebuilt Boondockers box fixed my prob. i could bypass the box and it would run fine on stock settings. That was my expierience.

Hope ya get her figured out.

 

[the doctor]

give me carbs

spend the day swapping parts and draining fuel again, man, just can not figure it out. anyone know if the buds can set the ecm to turn the fuel off at wot? is it a setting in the programming to turn on and off?

 

[NITROSKIDUDE]

Been thinkin that maybe ya need to undo the battery, and remove plugs and pipe and hold her wide open for a few pulls, and see how much more fuel your getting out of the motor. Mine was so full at one point it hydrolocked and wouldn't pull over at all. I made sure that the bottom end was as empty as it could be, and pree heated the plugs before I put them back in, put it back together, and gave her heck?!!