Already have a set of 07 spindles on it, but will '08 a-arms fit it? If so, I have a set of stockers for sale. Thanks!
Aaron
Aaron
Will '08 Dragon A-arms fit a 05-900rmk??
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Don't quote me on it but I think they are a little longer. I had to replace one side on my dragon last year and I bolted everything up only to find I couldn't hook up the steering rod. I measured and took them back to the dealer and I think they said they were for a 900.
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No they won't.....
Holz says the 09's will work but I don't trust them. After following their install instructions on my 05 skid..... I'd just stick with the parts that are for the year of sled.....
I had the opportunity to go with the new A Arms cuz "they are cleaner" but I'll wait unitll the 05/06's are out of paint to avoid any hassels...
Plus I don't want to bu another sway bar.... I upgraded to the fusion sway bar yeas ago... have the stock one... and don't want to buy another one for the 09's.....
As good as Holz are they are just in the business of making money and would just brush off the responsiblity onto the customer to come up with a solution for taking the chance of buying 09 stuff and trying to make it fit on the 05/06's....
Just my .02 F.W.I.W.
Good Luck
I had the opportunity to go with the new A Arms cuz "they are cleaner" but I'll wait unitll the 05/06's are out of paint to avoid any hassels...
Plus I don't want to bu another sway bar.... I upgraded to the fusion sway bar yeas ago... have the stock one... and don't want to buy another one for the 09's.....
As good as Holz are they are just in the business of making money and would just brush off the responsiblity onto the customer to come up with a solution for taking the chance of buying 09 stuff and trying to make it fit on the 05/06's....
Just my .02 F.W.I.W.
Good Luck
Holding them up side-by-side and also measuring them, they look the same. Why won't they? Anyone?
Aaron
As good as Holz are they are just in the business of making money and would just brush off the responsiblity onto the customer to come up with a solution for taking the chance of buying 09 stuff and trying to make it fit on the 05/06's....
Just my .02 F.W.I.W.
Good Luck[/QUOTE]
In my experience that is the opposite with Holz. I had a chance to buy 09 stuff for my 08 and they said it wasn't recomended even though they might have lost a sale. It's too bad you had bad luck and I would hope if you called them they would make things right for you because your right they do have good stuff and it would be very bad business to sell the wrong products to any one person just to make a sale.
Just my .02 F.W.I.W.
Good Luck[/QUOTE]
In my experience that is the opposite with Holz. I had a chance to buy 09 stuff for my 08 and they said it wasn't recomended even though they might have lost a sale. It's too bad you had bad luck and I would hope if you called them they would make things right for you because your right they do have good stuff and it would be very bad business to sell the wrong products to any one person just to make a sale.
I would go with Holz, it's not an opinion since they make them to fit different model years-they would know what years are the same. Always the possibility you may get someone at any business that gives incorrect answers though. Just from memory I believe there were changes (improvement) to the geometry of the A arms so they are likely different but maybe in a good way.
I would bet that if you used the tie rods with them, they would/should work.
I think Dave is correct....
The 2005 A-arms/tie rods were one year only (sway bar too)
The Holz spindles work with the 2005 - 2009... same spindle... The only difference is that the 2005 is spaced a bit closer which would indicate a shorter Tie Rod on the 2005 model.
The ski center width is the same on the 2005 - 2006, the spindles on the 2005 make up for this on the shorter 2005 arms.
The 2005 spindles were strange looking, heavy and had the worst geometry of all the spindles... I believe that that the a-arms were lengthended by 1/4" (each side) on the 2006 and up models.. The lower a-arm end forging looks identical betweent all the years on these sleds... probably too expensive to completley re-tool...
" WIMPY " on this forum makes/sells tubular tie rods in any length that you want for about $22 each. Look him up on the members list.
I have to lay the 2005 2007 2009 arms that I have here next to each other to find out the difference...
I believe that the 2006-2009 A-arms are the same... the 2006 is silver (or red), the 2007 -2009 are black... thus the different part number.
As for the swaybar... the 2005 part number is a "one off year" as well, Even the larger swaybar kits that Carl's sells have different kits for the 2005 sled.
According to the Holz instructions for their A-Arm kit that fits 2005 - 2009 IQ's... the 2006 - 2008 & 2009 wth the rear mounted swaybar, is 1/4" longer on both sides.
The 2005 was the test mule chassis for the IQ... the refinements were made.
from 2006 -2008 it was spindles and suspension paint colors that changed...
That's my 2 cents.
I'll be doing some front end work on a 2005 900 this week and will compare all the different yearfront end parts (2005. 2006, 2007/08 and 2009 ) and post my results
The 2005 A-arms/tie rods were one year only (sway bar too)
The Holz spindles work with the 2005 - 2009... same spindle... The only difference is that the 2005 is spaced a bit closer which would indicate a shorter Tie Rod on the 2005 model.
The ski center width is the same on the 2005 - 2006, the spindles on the 2005 make up for this on the shorter 2005 arms.
The 2005 spindles were strange looking, heavy and had the worst geometry of all the spindles... I believe that that the a-arms were lengthended by 1/4" (each side) on the 2006 and up models.. The lower a-arm end forging looks identical betweent all the years on these sleds... probably too expensive to completley re-tool...
" WIMPY " on this forum makes/sells tubular tie rods in any length that you want for about $22 each. Look him up on the members list.
I have to lay the 2005 2007 2009 arms that I have here next to each other to find out the difference...
I believe that the 2006-2009 A-arms are the same... the 2006 is silver (or red), the 2007 -2009 are black... thus the different part number.
As for the swaybar... the 2005 part number is a "one off year" as well, Even the larger swaybar kits that Carl's sells have different kits for the 2005 sled.
According to the Holz instructions for their A-Arm kit that fits 2005 - 2009 IQ's... the 2006 - 2008 & 2009 wth the rear mounted swaybar, is 1/4" longer on both sides.
The 2005 was the test mule chassis for the IQ... the refinements were made.
from 2006 -2008 it was spindles and suspension paint colors that changed...
That's my 2 cents.
I'll be doing some front end work on a 2005 900 this week and will compare all the different yearfront end parts (2005. 2006, 2007/08 and 2009 ) and post my results
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To sum it up... Like DiamondDave said:
IMO
To run 2006 and above front A-arms (including the 2009 setup if you are doing the front bumper/plastic conversion)....
Use the longer 2006-2009 tie rods with the 2006 -2009 A-arms and spindles and you will be ok.
The 2006 - 2009 spindles are interchangable
IMO
To run 2006 and above front A-arms (including the 2009 setup if you are doing the front bumper/plastic conversion)....
Use the longer 2006-2009 tie rods with the 2006 -2009 A-arms and spindles and you will be ok.
The 2006 - 2009 spindles are interchangable
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Aaron... how did you run the 2007 spindles with the 05 Tie rod
If you simply screwed out the rod ends more... I would start to worry about having enough thread engagement on the rod ends into the tierods... Also, check to see that the you have the same thread length on the inside of the tie rod boot (bulhead) as you do at the spindle end... re center if necessary.
If you simply screwed out the rod ends more... I would start to worry about having enough thread engagement on the rod ends into the tierods... Also, check to see that the you have the same thread length on the inside of the tie rod boot (bulhead) as you do at the spindle end... re center if necessary.
I don't remember having to adjust it much at all when doing the ski alignment after installing them. I ran it all last year like that with no problems. Probably around 800 miles or so. I am going to tear into it tomorrow morning and see if these '08 a-arms work. I was going to say, if it is only 1/4" than that's only an 1/8th on each end. I can't see that being an issue. We'll see!
Aaron
Aaron
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Hey Aaron, just looking for more details on how the 07 spindles matched up on the 05 900. I'm about to throw some 09's on mine and am figuring I may need some longer bolts but maybe not. Any alignment issues or bolts not getting enough threads on the tie rods or anything? Thanks, jholer
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Have an 05 900 RMK stock A-Arms, I just installed 09 spindles running the Powder Pros and yes I had to replace the upper bolts to longer ones other then that good fit and a slight adjustment on the alignment. Thanks for the heads up I am going to double check the thread length on the rod ends as never had them all the way out.
I do remember having to put longer bolts in the top, but the threads on the tie-rod end are fine if you pull from both ends.
Aaron
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ok guys i have an 05 900 with holz spindles. installing 09 front end tomorrow. why do i have to replace a arms. im not running a sway bar so does it matter?
ok guys i have an 05 900 with holz spindles. installing 09 front end tomorrow. why do i have to replace a arms. im not running a sway bar so does it matter?
Nope... keep your A-arms... You will just have the swaybar mount hanging off... you CAN still use the 2005 swaybar with the 2009 plastic if you choose.
If your swaybar is removed... on the 2005 make sure to put gr 5 bolts back into the holes from the sway bar saddles...they are part of the bulkhead structure fastening system.
By "front end", I asume you mean 2009 plastic and bumper??
As a note, the SLP, Vanamburg, TCP or Fabcraft airbox WILL NOT work with the 2009 plastic and bumper on a 900 RMK.
If you have an SLP airbox, and you want to run the 2009 Plastic/Bumper ... you will need to buy a $160 boost box (you cut up the stock one to "build" the SLP) and use either the stock airbox, Fire N ICE (currently out of stock till summer) or a Timbersled airbox.
If your swaybar is removed... on the 2005 make sure to put gr 5 bolts back into the holes from the sway bar saddles...they are part of the bulkhead structure fastening system.
By "front end", I asume you mean 2009 plastic and bumper??
As a note, the SLP, Vanamburg, TCP or Fabcraft airbox WILL NOT work with the 2009 plastic and bumper on a 900 RMK.
If you have an SLP airbox, and you want to run the 2009 Plastic/Bumper ... you will need to buy a $160 boost box (you cut up the stock one to "build" the SLP) and use either the stock airbox, Fire N ICE (currently out of stock till summer) or a Timbersled airbox.
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ya the 2009 plastic and bumper. Ive already built and tested my own air box. works great and no more plugging up and bogging in deep and wet powder. thanks for the info.
ya the 2009 plastic and bumper. Ive already built and tested my own air box. works great and no more plugging up and bogging in deep and wet powder. thanks for the info.
Post up some pix of that airbox...
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