Hey guys i've got an opportunity to by an 07 M8 with the 141. I love the M series and wanna stick with this over the crossfires. Just wanted to know your guys opinion on this track length. Many issues or problems? Thanks
Your thoughts on the 141 M8.
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In my opinion it would depend on what type of riding you do and where you do it. I think that the 141 is too short for the mountains in MT, UT, CO etc. unless you do more trail riding than off road riding. At the same time I have not ridden one. Just my thoughts, good luck.
IMO, 141" is too short to be considered a "M" sled. it's a crossfire, I don't care what the hood says.
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Cascade Crud
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I had a 05 m7 141 and it was a absolutely terrific sled. Now I have a 09 m8 153 and it is a terificer sled, yah, that's it 
The 141 7 went great in the pow but I always noticed that on steep sidehills I would have to be very careful with the throttle or the *** end would try to wash downhill, the 153 seems to hold a line a bit better. I also noticed that the 153 climbs way better (duh) than the 141. now I have not noticed a huge difernce between the 162 and 153 except in super deep powder where the 162 floats beter (again, duh) But on hills i could get more track speed out of the 153. I would say if you want to hit some powder but not climb cliffs in 3' of fluff the 141 will be great but if you have ambitions of steep and deep at the same time, hold out for a longer track. my .02
The 141 7 went great in the pow but I always noticed that on steep sidehills I would have to be very careful with the throttle or the *** end would try to wash downhill, the 153 seems to hold a line a bit better. I also noticed that the 153 climbs way better (duh) than the 141. now I have not noticed a huge difernce between the 162 and 153 except in super deep powder where the 162 floats beter (again, duh) But on hills i could get more track speed out of the 153. I would say if you want to hit some powder but not climb cliffs in 3' of fluff the 141 will be great but if you have ambitions of steep and deep at the same time, hold out for a longer track. my .02
love mine...and she is down to 405 lbs
**** ya 141 is going to a wicked sled. I'm basically making a 2010 M141. Crossfire 800 HO pclaw track. powder pro skis' Maybe some M a arms. It's going to rock.
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M6johnny
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^^^You have no idea. ^^^The 141 is 12 inches less than a 153 which equals out to 6 inches more on the snow. So, thats like one more row of lugs. I can go pretty much anywhere Iv wanted to go. I will say that it boondocks amazing, tall climbs are where the longer tracks shine.
My 07 M8 141 is the funnest sled I have personally ever ridden.(haven't had the '10 HCR on the snow yet) Extremely nimble, especially for really tight technical riding. With a powerclaw track, TIMBERSLED rear suspension, and bdx rear bumper it does very well in deep snow. Granted on the really deep days, I ride my M1000 with a 162. But 80% of the time I prefer riding 'shorty'. I'd suggest the 09 or 10 crossfire due to engine reverse, lighter skid, newer running board/bumper setup and especially for the new motor in the 10. All you have to do is add a powerclaw track to make it into a very capable sled. my $.02
Thanks for all the info guys. I had an F7 ext for a while but i found the 13.5 width hard to deal with. After reading this i'm thinking the new crossfire 8 sno pro might be a better fit afterall. I do a lot of trail riding but love to hillclimb and boondock so this might be a better fit. Thanks again.
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should be a great sled for most anything,but if you ride steep and deep you will be done....
should be a great sled for most anything,but if you ride steep and deep you will be done....
If you point and shoot every inch of track gets you feet further up a hill no matter what length. but a 08 and older m 162 will not switch back up a hill and a 141 would be easy to through around. if you slp piped it and got it around 420lbs with PC track and tunnel mod you could do some sweet technical riding but get ready to work at keeping up with any 09 and newer M.
I wish they still had the 141 in the 09 Ms last year. I came from a 05 M7153 and got a 09 M8 153SP and its a great sled just would have enjoyed a 141 better I think. My sled has to serve two purposes my 2 trips to MT-WY every year and riding around home in ND and MN when we get snow. I get anyplace I should go with my 153" key word should. I like that the shorter tracks force you to become a better rider and I'm not to big into climbing either so the the medium length tracks are perfect IMO for the type of riding I do. It wasn't to long ago a 136 1.5 was a huge mtn track. Like someone else said stick the powderclaw 141 on there and enjoy.
Longer track sure gets higher in deep and long climbs but shorter track is way more fun to play in the trees That's why I'm running shorty.
That's why I'm running shorty.
I ride steep and deep all the time on my 141 and I himark almost all the time in a group with a stock m1000 153, an 1150 cutler king kat 162, among others, of course the extra cc's have something to do with that. I'm not outclimbing the turbos, but most normally aspirated sleds, I either himark them or give them a good run for their money. I'm the odd man out here, but I don't ever want anything longer than a 141. I believe (and everyone has and will continue to give me crap about it, until they go ride with me), that a longer track does in fact give you more flotation and more traction, but it also weighs more (which hurts the increase of flotation going to a longer track), and it takes more power to turn a longer track than a shorter one, so it isn't always better to go longer. So, what I'm saying is that I may only have 141" of track going up a hill with say 50mph track speed, where the same sled with a 153" track going up the same hill will perhaps only have 40 or 45mph of track speed, because it has more weight to haul up the mountain, and the same motor can't turn a longer track as fast as the shorter one. The results, I've found is that the extra track speed and less weight make up quite a bit, especially when you add greatly to the stock performance of the machine without adding a significant overall weight in the process. My sled is by far the most fun sled I've ever ridden because I can hillclimb very well, and I still have the manueverability of a shorter track, and a very light weight sled compared to most 153's and longer which is easy to throw around making it even more fun. Of course, I don't ride a "stock" sled, but my point is that you can get a 141 to do pretty much everything you want it to if you set it up correctly and of course spend some cash. I know you didn't ask for all that, but I have always defended the 141's anytime I can, and always will. Just the results I've found and my $.02 on it.
I personaly have never understood why every one thinks longer is better. I have way more fun whiping around on a "short track" 141. If all you want to do is high mark your buddies on the deepest, steepest straight up climbs then obviously longer is better. For all around riding ( boondocking, tree riding, jumping) I think shorter is better. You might not get around quite as easily in early season fluff with no base, but for me, not knowing if I'm going to make it is half the fun. I was actualy disapointed to find they dropped the 141 M when I went to buy. Ended up going with the crossfire and am very glad I did. Had absolutly no issues keeping up with the 153's. Got a bigger fuel tank, bigger cooler, extra supports/bracing, lighter skid ect, and saw 50 + mph track speeds out of the box, including stock clutching. my.02
Yep, the 141 is just a trail sled!!!!
I ride high altitude CO, about 65-80 days a year. I went from a M1000 with a 156 to my 141 & am VERY happy. I think a huge factor in me being very happy is the powerclaw, my 141 with the same mods as a buddy's 153 stock camo track out climbs his easily, sled to sled, not rider to rider. He'd be the first to tell you this also.
Does it ride differently, of course... it's WAY more fun!!!!!!
I do exactly the type of climbing that folks say the short track will suck at, I climb big aspects, I boondock & I ride in fluffy CO snow. I do not ride trails at all, the area where I ride has a 1 mile long whoop section & then big open bowls.
I bought a CF, but traded the front end for a narrower one & got a PC track, best sled I've ever owned, and NO one ever gets off it without a big smile on their faces!! (isn't that why we ride anyhow??!?!)
I have a rather different sled planned for next year, but the new sled will also be a 141.
I ride high altitude CO, about 65-80 days a year. I went from a M1000 with a 156 to my 141 & am VERY happy. I think a huge factor in me being very happy is the powerclaw, my 141 with the same mods as a buddy's 153 stock camo track out climbs his easily, sled to sled, not rider to rider. He'd be the first to tell you this also.
Does it ride differently, of course... it's WAY more fun!!!!!!
I do exactly the type of climbing that folks say the short track will suck at, I climb big aspects, I boondock & I ride in fluffy CO snow. I do not ride trails at all, the area where I ride has a 1 mile long whoop section & then big open bowls.
I bought a CF, but traded the front end for a narrower one & got a PC track, best sled I've ever owned, and NO one ever gets off it without a big smile on their faces
!! (isn't that why we ride anyhow??!?!)I have a rather different sled planned for next year, but the new sled will also be a 141.
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richardsb014
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Sounds like you have the right choice with the CF8 Sno Pro since you ride a lot of trails. You don't want to ride the M on the trail very long. The CF is a great trail sled, and just by adding a 2+" paddle track to the 144" skid (on the 2010), you would have a very respectable powder sled. Doubtful you would miss the 153" very often.
The only downside to the CF is the seat height and ski stance. But with the seat, unless you are trail riding you are normally standing up. When you are trail riding, the seat is quite nice.
My wifes 07 CF6 keeps her smiling, and with the 144" extension and challenger track I'm currently adding, she should have the perfect sled.
The only downside to the CF is the seat height and ski stance. But with the seat, unless you are trail riding you are normally standing up. When you are trail riding, the seat is quite nice.
My wifes 07 CF6 keeps her smiling, and with the 144" extension and challenger track I'm currently adding, she should have the perfect sled.
My 07' M8 141 that had 2600 mtn. miles on it when sold worked so well in a wide range of conditions that I bought a 10' CF and spent the extra $ to gear down and Powerclaw it versus buying the 153. Not the cheapest or easyest way to go but what I felt was best for me. If all you do is ride with longer tracked sleds either your skills will improve or your going to be in awesome shape by the end of the season!
