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Flat Light goggle lens colors.

What lens color do you use for flat light / overcast conditions?

  • Clear

    Votes: 33 5.1%
  • Yellow tint

    Votes: 295 45.4%
  • Rose / red tint

    Votes: 204 31.4%
  • Gray tint / smoke / mirrored

    Votes: 12 1.8%
  • Brown tint

    Votes: 13 2.0%
  • I am chuck norris and I see everything.. :-)

    Votes: 39 6.0%
  • Polarized

    Votes: 54 8.3%

  • Total voters
    650
Thread Rating
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I can't comprehend the fact you thought they worked worse compared to the other googles you brought with you, i'm really flabbergasted. :confused:
If there was a way to do a real world test, a rig with 2 lenses and 1 cameras filming thru each while driving around with the sled, and edit them in the same clip side by side, a piece for the magazine?

As a side note, since i don't have Prizm in my hand my favorite lens to this date in grey/flat light weather is my newly purchased 509 Rose lens, way better then their yellow (for me, in 2 separate occasions last couple of weeks).

Sent from my Sanwa M12
 
Sorry for the long delay in getting my review posted.
I am just SLAMMED right now with projects.
The review will add ALOT of explanation as to why everyone thought what they did. And, as I have stated above, I am NOT ready to close out my review of them until I have had at least a 2nd full day of riding with them on.

It was not a cut and dry kind of evaluation.
The Oakley goggles are NOT BAD.
Far from it, they work quite well.
But none of us found them to work to the extent of the marketing when compared head to head with other major brands.
 
But none of us found them to work to the extent of the marketing when compared head to head with other major brands.





That's it in a nut shell!


I was really excited to try them, thinking they were going to be a whole new level. But they aren't,just another really expensive set of decent goggles. And IMHO not as good as Smith Sensors.
 
I had my new Rose Prizms out Saturday and Sunday. Conditions overcast and snowing off and on. Was I impressed with there performance? Yes. Was I expecting some miracle lens? No. Was there a improvement over my Smiths? I thought so. Marketing Hype? Sure. Conclusion. I didn't think I was going to get flat light X-ray vision. Overall. Rotating thru 3 different goggles, I liked them the best. Oh and the Quick lens change system works great on the Airbrakes.
 
I just picked up a Rose color Prizm for my Splice frame, my other lens is polarized gray. The Prizm does have some of the same quality as the polarized lens and it does give a bit more color to your view, but no I could not find it changing to the lighting conditions, which were from full dark white out to overcast sky. Are they a good lens? Yes Would I pay $65 for the lens again?Probably not. With how us snowmobilers go through lenses I did not see that big of a difference between their lower end $30-$40 lens.
 
I just picked up a Rose color Prizm for my Splice frame, my other lens is polarized gray. The Prizm does have some of the same quality as the polarized lens and it does give a bit more color to your view, but no I could not find it changing to the lighting conditions, which were from full dark white out to overcast sky. Are they a good lens? Yes Would I pay $65 for the lens again?Probably not. With how us snowmobilers go through lenses I did not see that big of a difference between their lower end $30-$40 lens.

I have done the same thing. I figured it was the cheapest route if things don't work out.

I also have a high intensity yellow lens on Oakley Crowbars, it will be interesting to compare the two. Next week I will be in Cooke City so I should be able to test for a few days. However, it wont be a complete apples to apples comparison being I'm used to the high intensity yellow and have never used a rose lens.

I have always had good luck with Oakley's (fogging, scratching, clarity, fit, ect), I'm hoping these are at least a step up and in the right direction.
 
Christopher, I read your review, its great however I do want to add some comments. Oakley's marketing is fairly accurate, especially with the pictures. The issue is that when there is no light to work with, meaning dark grey heavy overcast, nothing is going to give you X-ray vision. There simply is no light to create contrast. Where I've found the prizm lenses to be far better is when there is some light available, that is where they really bring out the detail in the whites. You'll notice it in mixed lighting particularly.

I think they still are by far the best lens for flat light, and by that logic, really day time lighting condition.

The biggest issue I have with guiding is when clients are constantly fogging and/or can't see terrain. The 60% that have switched to Oakley all have positive feedback.
 
Tested out the new prizm jade iridium lens today! I love it, better than my H.I. Yellow and better than blue iridium. I felt I could pick out features in the snow much better. It was overcast, not really any sun, maybe a little here and there. Thumbs up in my book! Few other guys looked through them and just said wow that's nice! How much? Lol. First rose lens I've used.
 
Christopher, I read your review, its great however I do want to add some comments. Oakley's marketing is fairly accurate, especially with the pictures. The issue is that when there is no light to work with, meaning dark grey heavy overcast, nothing is going to give you X-ray vision. There simply is no light to create contrast. Where I've found the prizm lenses to be far better is when there is some light available, that is where they really bring out the detail in the whites. You'll notice it in mixed lighting particularly.
Understood.
And it is for this reason that I am WITHHOLDING a final judgement on them until I have more seat time.

Went up riding again but ending up with BLUEBIRD skies.

But I know Island Park will deliver on FLAT LIGHT days, so I am sure I will have more opportunities SOON to test them out again!!!:face-icon-small-hap
 
I wore my new Christmas-gift Oakley Prisms in flat light conditions (snowed all day) - I didn't see any improvement in contrast.
But I didn't compare them to others I own, should have....will try out a couple different goggles to compare, next ride.

But on the last ride I went on (3 days ago, Sunday Dec 28th) using the new goggles, I found that fogging was a much bigger concern for me than contrast.
So I called today to order a pair of these:

http://www.abom.com/

but they won't be available for another 2 to 3 months (online).
If they work as advertised they'd be the only goggles I'd wear, and they show 4 different lens colors available...
 
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But on the last ride I went on (3 days ago, Sunday Dec 28th) using the new goggles, I found that fogging was a much bigger concern for me than contrast.
So I called today to order a pair of these:

http://www.abom.com/

but they won't be available for another 2 to 3 months (online).
If they work as advertised they'd be the only goggles I'd wear, and they show 4 different lens colors available...

Consider these.
http://store.ski-doo.com/product/715670/447827/_/Helium_Electric_Wireless_Goggles_(110V)

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Description


  • Patent-pending wireless electric dual lens system for maximum anti-fog performance and rider mobility.
  • Anti-fog, scratch-resistant mirrored dual maxflow lens for good visibility in varied light conditions.
  • Large, flexible, assembled urethane frame with integrated vents for strength, flexibility and comfort-flow ventilation.
  • Oversized, hypoallergenic triple density face foam for comfort and increased shock and sweat absorption.
  • Premium silicone backed strap system for long lasting slip-free performance.
  • Dual hinged strap system for optimum fit on any facial geometry.
  • Included clip-on nose guard shield.
  • 110V battery charger.

    Content: 100% Plastic
 
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Have lots of different goggles, 509, Smith, Dragon, regular Oakleys...

I bought both the Jade Iridium and the Rose Prizm lenses and they both have better contrast in flat light conditions than any of the other goggles I have used. I use the Jade ones on sunnier days and the Rose ones on low light days.

Great product!
 
Was back out yesterday. Conditions. About from 8" to 18" of new in and out of the trees, overcast snowing lightly and a nasty trail ride in (tight winding through the trees rutted and icy) but a good area to ride with low vis. After reading some of the other threads I ordered Smith Ignitor lens for my Smith Turbo Prochecy. Never a google I was that crazy about, with some of the other lens options. Started the day with the Smiths. Even with the fan they were fogging on the edges (damp warm day) and starting to narrow my vision. Intially I did like there performance. Decided to switch out to the Oakley Airbrake with the Rose Prizm. No fogging!!!! It was great..Conclusion.. Is the Prizm lens magic in flat light? No. Do they help? Yes. Is the anti fogging abilities of the Oakleys Airbrake the best I have tried? Yes!!!!. Love these googles.... For a damp snowy flat light day these are my go to Googles.
 
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DAY 2 REPORT.

Finally had the opportunity to spend a 2nd full day with these goggles on under another day of overcast flat light.

These goggles continue to flow more air through them than my others, and "some" snow dust as well. If you tend to build up more face heat, you might really appreciate the added airflow they offer?

I still fail to see any substantial difference in snow depth perception from these to my KLIM, so long as I am going from Rose colored to Rose Colored lenses.

For me, and those I have been riding with, we simply do not see the difference that the manufacturer claims.

I will offer these goggles, worn TWICE, for $200 to anyone who would like them.
 
The best color is Orange in theory because that is the direct opposite of blue. You want to block blue in overcast days. Bluebird days a polarized goggle will prevent the bounceback of white and is preferred. Peoples eyes are different, so they MAY like yellow or red a little better.
 
I bought a pair of Triple 9 Switch goggles and was happy road two days with there light chrome\ light amber lens and two days in overcast/snow with the Rose lens. Didn't fog up once, I liked the air flow through them, I always over heat. Clarity was good with both lens also. For the $74 I paid for the goggles and extra lens, im plenty happy and would buy another set in a heart beat.
 
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