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TORONTO (AP) — A former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan received an apology and a multimillion-dollar payment from the Canadian government after a court ruling said his rights were abused.
A government statement Friday said details of the settlement with Omar Khadr were confidential, but an official familiar with the deal said previously that it was for 10.5 million Canadian dollars ($8 million). A different official confirmed that the money had been given to Khadr. Both insisted on speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the deal publicly.
The government and Khadr's lawyers negotiated the deal last month based on a 2010 Supreme Court of Canada ruling that Canadian officials violated his rights at Guantanamo. The government released a statement apologizing to Khadr.
"On behalf of the government of Canada, we wish to apologize to Mr. Khadr for any role Canadian officials may have played in relation to his ordeal abroad and any resulting harm," said the statement from Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland.
The Canadian-born Khadr was 15 when he was captured by U.S. troops following a firefight at a suspected al-Qaida compound in Afghanistan that resulted in the death of an American special forces medic, U.S. Army Sgt. First Class Christopher Speer. Khadr, who was suspected of throwing the grenade that killed Speer, was taken to Guantanamo and ultimately charged with war crimes by a military commission.
He pleaded guilty in 2010 to charges that included murder and was sentenced to eight years plus the time he had already spent in custody. He returned to Canada two years later to serve the remainder of his sentence and was released in May 2015 pending an appeal of his guilty plea, which he said was made under duress.
 
Do accused criminals have rights, and what should happen when those rights (if they exist) are violated?

Do they only have rights if they are eventually acquitted?


I think the government (both the US, and in the case Canadian) government need to follow their own laws with respect to treatment of prisoners, especially if the accused is a citizen of that country.

Obviously this outcome isn't desired, but what's the other option? "Oh, it's ok to violate the law, just make sure they're guilty first."?
 
Do accused criminals have rights, and what should happen when those rights (if they exist) are violated?

Do they only have rights if they are eventually acquitted?


I think the government (both the US, and in the case Canadian) government need to follow their own laws with respect to treatment of prisoners, especially if the accused is a citizen of that country.

Obviously this outcome isn't desired, but what's the other option? "Oh, it's ok to violate the law, just make sure they're guilty first."?

I don't know anything about this but it does state he pleaded guilty on two different occasions.
 
I don't know anything about this but it does state he pleaded guilty on two different occasions.
And the violations of his rights preceded those proceedings.

The accused have rights, the governments involved have to follow the laws.

Criminals get off all the time because the cops don't follow procedure correctly. This is a larger scale of the same thing.

Sure maybe he's a dirtbag, but that doesn't mean the next guy the government does the same thing to is.

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Only reason he got paid is cause he's a Muslim. Hope the medics widow can successfully sue him before that money gets to whichever terrorist organization khadr is likely gonna support. Our prime minister is a brain dead drama teacher who loves throwing our money around to make himself look good.
 
Often times it would be best if inmates would mysteriously pass while in prison.
 
I'm projecting to the US here, but it appears you guys love the constitution, until it protects someone you don't like.

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I'm projecting to the US here, but it appears you guys love the constitution, until it protects someone you don't like.

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And sometimes guilty is guilty.
Sometimes justice escapes us, sometimes it is served in unexpected ways.
 
And the violations of his rights preceded those proceedings.

The accused have rights, the governments involved have to follow the laws.

Criminals get off all the time because the cops don't follow procedure correctly. This is a larger scale of the same thing.

Sure maybe he's a dirtbag, but that doesn't mean the next guy the government does the same thing to is.

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Perhaps you aren't aware, but "rights" only exist in 1st world countries. Take him back to Afghanistan and see what their government would do to him. If I am not mistaken Guantanamo (sp?) is not a part of the US or Canada therefore our rights do not cover people kept there.

If we want to pretend rights exist other places then by rights he should have been shot after killing an American. He should be happy to be alive quite frankly, but the outcome doesn't really matter to me since it is the Canadians throwing money around for once.
 
Why wouldnt we use known terrorists being detained at Guantanemo for medical experiments that would improve quality of life for man kind?
For example, we could use them to measure the exact temperature at which eyeballs, fingernails and testicles melt, or finding out if hearing is impaired or improved by drilling a breather hole through an eardrum.
Things like that can help these inmates become contributors to society giving them the much needed pride that they are lacking.
 
Why wouldnt we use known terrorists being detained at Guantanemo for medical experiments that would improve quality of life for man kind?
For example, we could use them to measure the exact temperature at which eyeballs, fingernails and testicles melt, or finding out if hearing is impaired or improved by drilling a breather hole through an eardrum.
Things like that can help these inmates become contributors to society giving them the much needed pride that they are lacking.

Nice.

War crimes now in addition to just violations of our constitution.
 
Lighten up Clarence.
I doubt that they would ever use any of my techniques.
So because they wouldn't use them (because it's illegal) I'm supposed to ignore you saying you think they should?

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So because they wouldn't use them (because it's illegal) I'm supposed to ignore you saying you think they should?

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I'm just saying lighten up and find some joy from the simple thought of it.
 
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