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[samiams2]

Going West, In my opinion the issue is with the strength as well as the tolerance of the fit. It is just a poor design and I am sure it will change but you may be one of the few that have a good shaft for now? I hope yours continues to hold strong! I am not the doom and gloom guy but this whole program makes me sick.

I could not stomach all of these issues and I had seen & heard enough. I know of 9 failures with a group of 16 that I ride with and 12 are new pros so for the first time in my life I traded in my 13 ProRMK 800 on another make and model. In no way am I comparing the two sleds because they are for sure not the same kind of machine but we know which one will not blow a drive shaft, quick drive belt, or engine. Yes things can still happen but it is piece of mind at this time for me. Also all of the manufactures have had issues but Poo has been on a roll for a long time in the 800 class.

I have also suffered through multiple CFI 2 & CFI 4 Poo engine failures as well. I really like the new Pro but I need something I can trust. I also hope your machine remains trouble free and I hate to hear about anyone having to be pulled out and having a trip wasted with a terrible expierence. These sleds cost $12,000.00 and should be way more reliable al the way around and yes they are light but that will not balance out all of the issues. I still own 4 other Poo sleds for now and I hope Poo gets all of these issues resolved.

So u traded in ur brand new sled?

 

[R44guy]

So u traded in ur brand new sled?

samiams2, Yes, I traded my 13 Polaris Pro RMK 800 in for a 2013 AC M1100T. Like I mentioned you can not compare the two since one is real heavy and one makes a lot more power. I still have 4 other Polaris sleds but unfortunately the most reliable of the bunch is the 2001 Gen II RMK 700 - 144that my son rides.

This was not a easy choice since I like the Pro chassis but I have been left on and over the Mountain multiple times with Poo. I have lost a voltage regulator and ECU and had to be towed in twice, I have lost 2 - 800 motors and had to be towed, my buddy had his 2012 Pro lose a crank with 123 miles and could not get out and the heli ride cost him $1800 and it took Poo 7 weeks to get it repaired under warranty and no help with the heli lift.

 

[jbunce]

samiams2, Yes, I traded my 13 Polaris Pro RMK 800 in for a 2013 AC M1100T. Like I mentioned you can not compare the two since one is real heavy and one makes a lot more power. I still have 4 other Polaris sleds but unfortunately the most reliable of the bunch is the 2001 Gen II RMK 700 - 144that my son rides.

This was not a easy choice since I look the Pro chassis but I have been left on and over the Mountain multiple times with Poo. I have lost a voltage regulator and ECU and had to be towed in twice, I have lost 2 - 800 motors and had to be towed, my buddy had his 2012 Pro lose a crank with 123 miles and could not get out and the heli ride cost him $1800 and it took Poo 7 weeks to get it repaired under warranty and no help with the heli lift.

Hope you did your research because Cat had mor issues with there proclimb then just a bad drive shaft i cant begin to tell you the amount of days i have lost sledding and being towed out and driving thousands of miles in the middle of a trip to get it fixed. good luck on the turbo im just about to come off and and not looking back you can keep that extra 200lbs ill take the risk of a bad driveshaft over throwing 200lbs and the issues that come with that sled.

every brand and every model is going to have issues we are pushing this sport and the machines to the limits every year. if you think Ski-doo isnt going to have issues this year your out to lunch the only way we will ever have the perfect sled with no issues is the day we stop pushing the limits which is against human nature.

 

[samiams2]

Hope you did your research because Cat had mor issues with there proclimb then just a bad drive shaft i cant begin to tell you the amount of days i have lost sledding and being towed out and driving thousands of miles in the middle of a trip to get it fixed. good luck on the turbo im just about to come off and and not looking back you can keep that extra 200lbs ill take the risk of a bad driveshaft over throwing 200lbs and the issues that come with that sled.

every brand and every model is going to have issues we are pushing this sport and the machines to the limits every year. if you think Ski-doo isnt going to have issues this year your out to lunch the only way we will ever have the perfect sled with no issues is the day we stop pushing the limits which is against human nature.

I see your point, and you have your right to your opinion (i agree with you in some respects) but 200lbs is not accurate. 100lbs would be closer but still high.

It's all a Game of trade offs. Would rather have this and give up that? Or have that and give up this?

 

[jbunce]

the dry weight of the 13 pro is 417# the wet weight of a M1100t is 620-660# so im not far off on the 200# mark after riding it for a year and being beat at the end of the day every day and then riding the 13 pro and able to go hard all day and not be anywhere as tired is worth having to vent the hood which most do to the turbo any ways and and having the rist of a weak drive shaft which is almost guaranteed that and aftermarket company will replace place with a strong light weight replacement is worth keeping the pro, dont get me wrong im keeping the M1100t i love it but there are days when its nice not to be throwing around a lead brick. we had more issues with it thou then a bad drive shaft. Just my 2cents every one has something to complain about take it with a grain of salt is all im saying we have 3 13pros here right now with no issues and over 600 miles

I do hope you dont have any of the issues i had with my M1100t thou it ruined half my year last winter in and out of the dealer. but like i said im still keeping it because it was a blast

 

[knifedge]

--1100T PC is not in the same class as Pro. It's better compared to Yamaha in which case the PC is superior. What is good to know is the M1100T PC and M800 PC share the same chassis. That should tell you something as far as durability and agility of the PC chassis whichever engine is in it.

--BTW, you can easily trim the weight of the PC M800 to match the weight of the Pro at roughly 430 lbs wet no fuel and still have 160 hp OEM reliable power and chassis durability

 

[cjfox]

driveshaft broke with collars installed correctly and torqued to the right spec. Dont know if these collars are the answer.

Where is the pics? cause i can tell people all day my wife is megan fox but with out pics there is no real proof, and what brand of clamp?

 

[cjfox]

--BTW, you can easily trim the weight of the PC M800 to match the weight of the Pro at roughly 430 lbs wet no fuel and still have 160 hp OEM reliable power and chassis durability

How much coin would that cost you? and then think if you dumped that money into a top end kit for a poo and other goodies then you would have a real mtn sled with more power than cat on paper, FYI the poo feels just as strong as the new 13 cats.

 

[R44guy]

Hope you did your research because Cat had mor issues with there proclimb then just a bad drive shaft i cant begin to tell you the amount of days i have lost sledding and being towed out and driving thousands of miles in the middle of a trip to get it fixed. good luck on the turbo im just about to come off and and not looking back you can keep that extra 200lbs ill take the risk of a bad driveshaft over throwing 200lbs and the issues that come with that sled.

every brand and every model is going to have issues we are pushing this sport and the machines to the limits every year. if you think Ski-doo isnt going to have issues this year your out to lunch the only way we will ever have the perfect sled with no issues is the day we stop pushing the limits which is against human nature.

I did do alot of research with this sled and I realize that you take a chance no matter what sled brand you buy. I also have no doubt that the Pro RMK driveshaft will be updated for next years 14 models and it wont be a issue again. If you notice I still have and ride a 11 Pro Assault RMK as well so it will just depend on what kind of riding I will be doing on any given day.

 

[R44guy]

I see your point, and you have your right to your opinion (i agree with you in some respects) but 200lbs is not accurate. 100lbs would be closer but still high.

It's all a Game of trade offs. Would rather have this and give up that? Or have that and give up this?

samiams2, I agree it is all about the trade offs and for me it is about reliability and as I stated earlier I am in no way saying either one of these sleds compete with each other they are two different class machines.

 

[R44guy]

the dry weight of the 13 pro is 417# the wet weight of a M1100t is 620-660# so im not far off on the 200# mark after riding it for a year and being beat at the end of the day every day and then riding the 13 pro and able to go hard all day and not be anywhere as tired is worth having to vent the hood which most do to the turbo any ways and and having the rist of a weak drive shaft which is almost guaranteed that and aftermarket company will replace place with a strong light weight replacement is worth keeping the pro, dont get me wrong im keeping the M1100t i love it but there are days when its nice not to be throwing around a lead brick. we had more issues with it thou then a bad drive shaft. Just my 2cents every one has something to complain about take it with a grain of salt is all im saying we have 3 13pros here right now with no issues and over 600 miles

I do hope you dont have any of the issues i had with my M1100t thou it ruined half my year last winter in and out of the dealer. but like i said im still keeping it because it was a blast

jbunce, It is all about weight and power and obviously one can offset the other but if one is broken in the mountain it is obviously less relaible regardless of how much it weighs or how much power it makes.

 

[Flygti32]

sits and waits, and watches this thread. I feel for you 13 guys, I love my 12 600 rmk, absolutely LOVE IT!! i hate to see guys unable to enjoy the sweet POW POW!

 

[mud99]

Can we get some pics of the damage and stop going OT bitching about sleds?

AFAIK this is the first failure with a collar installed, and therefore is VERY interesting.

 

[Snow4life]

PICS

 

[rmscustom]

Doesn't look like it was put on right.

 

[500 CID]

Not trying to be a critic, but I believe the clamps are supposed to at the ends of the where the aluminum meets the steel stub........maybe this is the cause of the failure.

 

[Snow4life]

And you see, this is why i didnt put pictures up in the first place, because i knew everyone would just say they werent on correctly. Obviously thats not where the collar belongs, it somehow slid down. Have you ever had a bandaid fall off? Because this one did.

 

[rmscustom]

It obivous the collar was not where it was suppose to be when the failure happened no matter how it was installed.

 

[XFIRE800]

The collars were installed correctly at the beginning of the trip, witnessed by more than one of us. The shaft must have mushroomed out pushing the collar down the shaft then it snapped. These collars were torqued to spec and in the correct location when installed. This setup is an absolute joke and its pathetic that polaris doesn't get new shafts in these sleds instead of the nig rigged fix they are going to send out.

 

[rmscustom]

The collars were installed correctly at the beginning of the trip, witnessed by more than one of us. The shaft must have mushroomed out pushing the collar down the shaft then it snapped. These collars were torqued to spec and in the correct location when installed. This setup is an absolute joke and its pathetic that polaris doesn't get new shafts in these sleds instead of the nig rigged fix they are going to send out.

Maybe with most of the shafts failing within 50 miles that one with 20 on was already ****ed and it was too late for the collar.