Hey guys i've been a cat man since i was 13 and now i am having many douts. im thinkin of getting a new apex or nytro w/turbo i have rode a buddies apex turbo with timber sled suspension and camo extreme 2.5. i hate to admit it but u have to love the potential and dragin the rear bumper. i need ur guys opinion on the two though. i have not rode a turbo nytro yet all input would be great and if u know a sucker lookin for a good m8 let me know