What's your thoughts on HR2153?

[Gainster]

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2153/text

Text of H.R.2153 as Introduced in House
Second Amendment Restoration Act
To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to increase the extent to which State law is used in determining whether a criminal conviction under State law is sufficient to deny a person the right to ship, transport, possess, or receive a firearm.
current 111st session of congress
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To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to increase the extent to which State law is used in determining whether a criminal conviction under State law is sufficient to deny a person the right to ship, transport, possess, or receive a firearm.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink




IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESCommentsClose CommentsPermalink




April 28, 2009CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

Mr. STUPAK introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the JudiciaryCommentsClose CommentsPermalink




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A BILLCommentsClose CommentsPermalink



To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to increase the extent to which State law is used in determining whether a criminal conviction under State law is sufficient to deny a person the right to ship, transport, possess, or receive a firearm.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink



Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,CommentsClose CommentsPermalink




SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Second Amendment Restoration Act’.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink




SEC. 2. LIMITED RESTORATION OF FIREARMS RIGHTS UNDER STATE LAW.
(a) In General- Section 921(a)(20) of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:CommentsClose CommentsPermalink



‘(20) The term ‘crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year’ does not include--CommentsClose CommentsPermalink



‘(A) any Federal or State offenses pertaining to antitrust violations, unfair trade practices, restraints of trade, or other similar offenses relating to the regulation of business practices; orCommentsClose CommentsPermalink



‘(B) any State offense classified by the laws of the State as a misdemeanor and punishable by a term of imprisonment of 2 years or less, or by an indeterminate sentence.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink



What constitutes a conviction of such a crime shall be determined in accordance with the law of the jurisdiction in which the proceedings were held. Any conviction which has been expunged or set aside, or for which a person has been pardoned, has had civil rights restored, or has not lost civil rights, shall not be considered a conviction for purposes of this chapter, except to the extent that the pardon, expungement, or restoration of civil rights, or State or Federal law, expressly provides that the person may not ship, transport, possess, or receive any firearm.’.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

 

[Gainster]

As a gun owner I feel it is my civil right to be able to own a firearm, When someone screws up to the point of receiving a felony they give that right to own a firearm.

 

[bungeeguy]

As a gun owner I feel it is my civil right to be able to own a firearm, When someone screws up to the point of receiving a felony they give that right to own a firearm.

Disagree. It starts with a felony and soon it's a parking ticket. The constitution does not read the right to bear arms unless...

 

[m7bandit]

i agree with bungeeguy in it seems like everything is a felony these days example in some states driving with expired tag over 90 days, crazy

 

[ericbigbore]

It would depend on where you live, here in Seattle I would be screwed if our state was in charge of guns. They would make an all out effort to ban them!

The a$$hole mayor of Seattle is already trying to ban guns in the city limits, all parks and public transportation. They really want to take guns away from us so we can be fish in a barrel against the thugs.

 

[Gainster]

i agree with bungeeguy in it seems like everything is a felony these days example in some states driving with expired tag over 90 days, crazy

Are you serious? Ok thanks guys for changing my mind!

 

[swampwater]

Disagree. It starts with a felony and soon it's a parking ticket. The constitution does not read the right to bear arms unless...

I beg to differ, it started with a felony a long time ago, when convicted of a felony many of your rights are forfeited but are returned upon completion of your satisfaction of your sentence, however some rights must be petitioned for and returned only by the courts, voting, possession of a firearm etc. This is nothing new and this HR seems to be simply a clerification of the jurisdiction of the state law being the determining factor. Seems to me to be a proper realization of states rights. I may be reading this wrong, if so I would welcome clarification. Swampy

 

[Gainster]

See thats the deal in the wording, Stupak was on the news saying he brought this bill to bear to help people who have been convicted of felonys but served less than one year of time.

I can see the headlines "To many armed felons running loose so we are taking all firearms for the good of the people"

 

[Ollie]

This legislation is a good example of why we need to ban all lawyers from being politicians.
I am will to bet I could say the exact same thing in english and in about 30 words. that is of cource if I could make heads or tails out of that load of rubbish.

 

[Weekday Warrior]

I'd hate to see the "right to bear arms", turn into the "privledge to bear arms".

 

[Gainster]

I'd hate to see the "right to bear arms", turn into the "privledge to bear arms".

That is how it is now if you have a felony

 

[H2SNOW]

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