What's a Nypex worth these days?

[M5-]

So just out of curiosity I thought I'd throw this out there. I've had all kinds of stupid trade offers (hot tubs, cars, trucks crap I don't want) but not the cash deal I think it's worth. I could be totally out to lunch here on my thinking But....

Here's a link to the sled ad. Let's hear what the market thinks it's worth. I've ridden it one day this year and like 10+ on the snow bike so it's just sitting there.

M5

http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314912&highlight=nypex

 

[YAMA S]

After looking over your pics very close I believe its worth EVERY dollar you want for it!!! That being said I think there is a couple things working against you.
1. It's a custom "home" built sled(although your craftsmanship is as good as any sled shop or better)
2. Lack of being able to finance it.
3. It's still a Nytro (new sled models coming out)
4. Possible that it's a 162 & not 174x3

If I had the cash would I buy it??..... HELL YES! In a heart beat & then I'd use my Nytro as a backup sled. Hope you get it sold she's a beautiful sled.

 

[pelon]

So I copy and pasted parts of your add and highlighted what I see as negative to potential buyers.

MCX 290 Turbo
Custom chassis/tunnel heated running boards etc
Powder coated everything $$$$
Camo 162 2.5 CE single ply
Avid drivers M Style
Reverse 19 40 gearing
2006 Apex motor with 60 thou shim good to 17 lbs I run 94 octane
Ice age rails with Cat guts could be changed to Kmod or ???
Stock front end
Cromo steering post
Full guages AEM wideband liquid filled boost guage
Tether

I know there`s more but you get the drift. I don`t need to sell this and quite frankly I kinda hope it doesn`t sell so I don`t have to build another one but if it does I still have an MCX nytro to ride here and my son isn`t getting out much cause of university so there you go. LOL. I have about 600 hours into this build hence the price.

I`m asking $28,500 I know that seems like a lot of $$ and it is, but you can`t build one for that unless you do ALL the work. I`ll consider MCX nytros or Timbersled snowbikes on trade. I don`t want your 03 King Cat or a go kart or lawn mower etc etc. sled is located in Calgary area.


So I will clarify:
1) The motor is a used 2006.....plain and simple! Will it run a long, long time.....yes most likely but it still is a turnoff to potential buyers.

2) Although cat guts are much better than OEM yammy....their still CAT OEM. You can change them which is good, but the buyer will assume that extra cost!

3) Stock front end....everyone loves the spindle forward now!

4) Stating you "kinda hope it doesn't sell so you don't have to build another" ? Yet you want to know why it's not selling?

5) Lots of labor = high cost. Well I hear you...really I do, but buyers don't care. They pay for what it is and not how laboring it was to build.

I Hope I read your post correctly and this reply helps

Its a really nice sled,
good luck

 

[M5-]

A couple of things you missed or I neglected to move to the top of the ad perhaps my bad. The rear suspension has Zbroz Exit shocks now not the Cat stuff so the only thing left Cat are the arms. As for the front end when I built the sled there were so many opinions on which one is best I left it stock. I know that most guys would want something different and I'm willing to negotiate that into the price maybe I didn't make that clear. The donor sled was a low miler, specially in Apex terms, the year doesn't matter IMO.

As for not really wanting to sell I don't but it's just not getting ridden which is wrong, it's a waste to have it just sitting, and lastly my last posted price was $18,900, I just assumed that guys would read the whole thread, again my error.

M5

 

[av8er]

looks like a badazz sled

lots of fun to be had

 

[irondave86]

It cost 18,900 just to get a naturally aspirated viper 162.......... Your sled is a steal @ that price. My .02

 

[pelon]

A couple of things you missed or I neglected to move to the top of the ad perhaps my bad. The rear suspension has Zbroz Exit shocks now not the Cat stuff so the only thing left Cat are the arms. As for the front end when I built the sled there were so many opinions on which one is best I left it stock. I know that most guys would want something different and I'm willing to negotiate that into the price maybe I didn't make that clear. The donor sled was a low miler, specially in Apex terms, the year doesn't matter IMO.

As for not really wanting to sell I don't but it's just not getting ridden which is wrong, it's a waste to have it just sitting, and lastly my last posted price was $18,900, I just assumed that guys would read the whole thread, again my error.

M5

thanks for the small clarifications.
I saw your last posted price some time ago and I actually think that's a great deal for what it's truly worth. Unfortunately, and coming from my experience, most people are clueless to what is sitting right in front of them, and they will hinge themselves on anything that they see drops the value, even when they tell you it's the baddest sled they have ever seen.......it's stupid human nature.

I'm almost done building my Nypex, so I know what's involved and I hear you.

I plan on putting some miles on mine then selling both my Nypex and Nytro at the end of the season......and of course I will get my *** kicked on the price.

good luck

 

[pelon]

It cost 18,900 just to get a naturally aspirated viper 162.......... Your sled is a steal @ that price. My .02

Holy ****.....does it really...dam!

 

[M5-]

It cost 18,900 just to get a naturally aspirated viper 162.......... Your sled is a steal @ that price. My .02

Well that's what I was thinking.

What's a turboed up Viper going to cost to build. $30K, this sled will kill it. I know its the newest thing out there but IMO in the end you still have a front/side mount Nytro powered Cat when you are done it may handle better than a done up Nytro but in deep snow really how much, they still are going to weigh close to 600 lbs, its a fact of 4 stroke. These 4t sleds ALL suck in lower snow, its not till its 2 plus feet deep that they really start to shine.

M5

 

[stingray719]

Well that's what I was thinking.

What's a turboed up Viper going to cost to build. $30K, this sled will kill it. I know its the newest thing out there but IMO in the end you still have a front/side mount Nytro powered Cat when you are done it may handle better than a done up Nytro but in deep snow really how much, they still are going to weigh close to 600 lbs, its a fact of 4 stroke. These 4t sleds ALL suck in lower snow, its not till its 2 plus feet deep that they really start to shine.

M5

Sorry you couldn't be more wrong. I had a superlight Nytro (541 wet) with all the suspension goodies and it was still a topheavy pig. The new Viper rails down a road like an Apex (had one of those once too) and handles in powder like the 2014 M8 (have that one now). Actually, we took the small paddle 141 track Viper to our favorite riding area and it went places the 162 track Nytro wouldn't. Can't wait till the long track gets here so I can get it on.

I would suggest you ride one before claiming how it rides and handles....

By the way, I finally had to sell my low mile 280hp Nytro with all the goodies and longtracked for 6500. What people say it was worth and what I got after months of trying to sell were not the same. Add if you are curious, http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332947&highlight=stingray719


But I do hope you get it sold.

 

[M5-]

What I don't think most people understand is this is a totally different animal than a Nytro both in respect to power and balance. I also have an MCX Nytro and I've ridden the 2 sleds which are identical except for the motors back to back many times. The Apex motor situates the crank in a totally different location than a Nytro which changes the handling noticeably. Stingray no disrespect intended but you couldn't give me a supercharged Nytro, it's not the total weight so much as it is where the weight is located and the supercharger is the worst possible combination for the Nytro chassis.

M5

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I think anything high end nytro related is going to be a tough sell. People who have big cash to burn on a sled are most likely going to burn in on the latest and greatest. I myself have an ever growing dollar number into a nytro and at this point figure I'll end up using many of the parts as donors to build a viper setup a couple years down the road when you start seeing used vipers come up for cheap. Until then, I'll ride the old dog with a smile on my face! That being said, M5's sled is nothing short of bad ***, and just like he said the blower setups are FAR different than the turbo setups!

 

[Sharp]

It's old. That's my opinion. I went riding with Chris Brown in Whistler new years eve. He had a nice built nytro with 270 MCX that he sold when I was there for 22k cash. That might give you some hope on selling yours. Though, after looking at your build I would still have taken Brown's Nytro. He had about 37k into his nytro. It was nice.

The front and rear suspension has to go. If it had a timbersled rear and a skinz 37'' front it would show much better. Also, get a new seat. Skinz seat would look a lot better on your sled. CA Pro skis would help. You put a lot of time and work in this sled but really should have done things a little different to make if a killer sled. It would have made a difference when selling it. It's like a person dressed up in a tuxedo wearing tennis shoes. If I was looking to buy the sled I would have to put another 7k into it. Track is another thing I don't like. 3" paddles!! POV video don't help in selling your sled. You need someone with a real camera not a gopro to film you ride it. That would sell it much better. You asked so don't be mad.

People are looking to see what yamaha will do in the next few years. Rumor has it that they will introduce a new sled engine every year for the next 5 years. If this is so then maybe we will see a viper with a apex engine or something like it. If that happens your nypex would drop value close to 5k if not more. Easy. It's good that you are trying to sell it now because in a few years you will lose even more. It's a small market for nypex. Good luck.

I've been on one Nypex that outlaw motorsports built. It was nice and very fast. I think you have a good sled and someone will be happy with it. Good luck.

 

[Smoke Show]

Its worth what you get for it.

Like many others have said your working in a very small market.
Most who can afford this with cash will buy something new. Most who want this but can't afford cash need to finance or trade.

Stay persistant and keep posting for sale if you want it to move. If not, go enjoy her and see what pops up.

price wise i think your good.

 

[pelon]

Well that's what I was thinking.

What's a turboed up Viper going to cost to build. $30K, this sled will kill it. I know its the newest thing out there but IMO in the end you still have a front/side mount Nytro powered Cat when you are done it may handle better than a done up Nytro but in deep snow really how much, they still are going to weigh close to 600 lbs, its a fact of 4 stroke. These 4t sleds ALL suck in lower snow, its not till its 2 plus feet deep that they really start to shine.

M5

Well said

 

[pelon]

Sorry you couldn't be more wrong. I had a superlight Nytro (541 wet) with all the suspension goodies and it was still a topheavy pig. The new Viper rails down a road like an Apex (had one of those once too) and handles in powder like the 2014 M8 (have that one now). Actually, we took the small paddle 141 track Viper to our favorite riding area and it went places the 162 track Nytro wouldn't. Can't wait till the long track gets here so I can get it on.

I would suggest you ride one before claiming how it rides and handles....

By the way, I finally had to sell my low mile 280hp Nytro with all the goodies and longtracked for 6500. What people say it was worth and what I got after months of trying to sell were not the same. Add if you are curious, http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332947&highlight=stingray719


But I do hope you get it sold.

6500 for your sled....thats about right...maybe 7,000. You didn't do to bad

 

[pelon]

Powerhouse customs......that's where I might go next. If they deliver to southern colorado

 

[DeanO]

painful

M5- I feel your pain. I know a nypex is hard sell. had one. loved it. was crazy fun. but after my riding season I just don't know. wanted something different. so I let it go. took me awhile to sell it. and it took the right person. I had tons of response on it. lots of people loved it. but one comment that kept coming up ( why would i buy your sled when I can have a turbo nytro for 9000 or a bran new pro or xm for 15000).

It does blow my mind. everyone that called wanted a nypex. but only one guy was ready to show me the money.

I came into the problem with my Turbo Apex, couldn't sell it so I broke it down parted it out to build the nypex.

your build is awesome. and I know it is a pile of work. I praise anyone that has done it on there own. So many things you don't even think of until your into it. Its much much more then just buying a water pump and trimming the bulkheads. And to be honest. yes I'm on a 2014 XM 154 this year. but I miss the earth churning power of a nypex. I still giggle just thinking about the sound. One thing that is interesting. just an observation not one Nypex is the same to the next.

Good luck M5. who ever gets it will love it. whats it worth??

If I wasn't working in south america for most of the this winter, I would have kept mine.

 

[M5-]

It's kind of interesting to read these comments and what different guys think is good or bad. IMO all the things mentioned are pretty minor and easily changed but whatever. The real work in a Nypex has nothing to do with the track selection or the seat or the color or what A arms are bolted on or or or....

There are really 2 schools here, guys who know what it is and the compare it to the Nytro group. I really can't over emphasize this is not a Nytro, I have an MCX Nytro too and this is totally different. I would just sell the Nytro and keep the Nypex but the Nytro's got lots of miles on it and my idiot friend rear ended me and bent my tunnel which would need to be replaced prior to selling so it's really not worth it to sell the Nytro, better to just keep it and ride it for the odd times I want a sled.

I keep saying this part but nobody seems to be picking up on it, I can and will add whatever front end or skid a guy wants. When somebody is looking at a $20K sled I get it, I'll give you a grand or $1500 and go buy whatever front end you want, narrow, wide, Zbroz, Skinz, CR, whatever my point is you can have exactly what YOU want here not what I think you should have, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Anyways kind of an interesting set of views.

I wasn't really trying to sell the sled in this thread so much as see where everyone's heads are at these days. IMO in a year or 2 anybody who builds a Viper now is going to be in the exact same postion or maybe worse because Yamaha has said flat out that the Viper isn't the final solution. Tomorrows Viper is today's Nypex only slower and probably more expensive.

It'll be interesting to watch what happens, but for now I guess it can just keep sitting in my garage and it will get ridden the odd day.

M5

 

[BigFish BC]

yup lots of people want something for nothing,to compare a brand new xm or pro to this is just silly because its like comparing a race car to a car off the lot.these sleds are not for everyone but the guys that ride them & know what there like will pay for them,they are the best sled in 2ft+pow.to many guys have devalued these custom sleds over the years on here by selling them for nothing,if you are wait you will usually find the right guy to buy it.