i just bought a 09 dragon rmk 800 has a slp pipe and can, v-force reeds, power commander, slp air intake, thinking not my greatest purchase after reading some forums but i was wondering what i should run in it, i have ran interceptor in recent sleds but would like to hear what other people run?
This is like what color of underwear do you like on the second tuesday of the week..you will get many answers. Most all the oil is pretty good now days. I cant recall the last time I heard of a sled failing due to the brand of oil.
That said i use the cheap oil...Redline Racing. You cant go wrong with this..costs a bit more but whats 10 extra dollars spread over a week. If you only ride weekends a gallon lasts a long time.
There are just a lot of real good products out there..keep in mind that we always have clean oil and new oil going into the fuel.
I have used klotz with good results..just got sick of the sweet smell that would linger in my nostrils and gear the whole way home.
Now on the other extreme side...I have a friend (former pro racer) and he only uses the cheapest crapola made..he uses some Philips 66 nasty smelling stuff that he buys dirt cheap. I have seen his motors when we disassemble for upgrades and they look as good as any. Just dont ride behind the old fart or you might puke from the smell.
Dealers or OEM';s do not make oil..they send off some specs and then I would guess it is low bid from their vendors.
If you get a high performance erl like Redline Racing you need to stock up as it isnt always redily available in the local neighborhood.... Polaris or Yamaha oil is all over the place at dealers. I buy enough to last two seasons at a time..never have run out yet...gotten low but not out.
ISO-L-EGC which is similar to the JASO FC rating.
The ISO-L-EGD+ was created to establish a higher standard of detergency and ability to withstand higher levels of heat. The new test runs for 3 hours vs 1 hour for the previous test.
If a lubricant is certified ISO-L-EGD+ it has passed the most stringent tests set by American, Japanese and European engine manufacturers. Polaris recommends TC-W3 lubricants, Yamaha JASO FC and Ski-Doo/Sea-Doo requires ISO-L-EDG+ lubricants.
None of the three North American snowmobile manufacturers specify use of TC-W3 oil in their owner’s manuals. Bombardier pointedly tells its customers not to use it, recommending API-TC rated oil instead.
Until recently, the top JASO oil rating was FC, and you will continue to see this listed in many places. But the tougher FD rating is now available, and some companies upgraded their products. The JASO-FC standard is also important because it includes a test to specifically measure exhaust smoke. So JASO-FC and the subsequent FD test is the key for visible exhaust emissions.
ISO-L-EGD is the top European two-stroke standard, with EGC and EGB as lower performance levels. A plus sign after the letters (EGD+) means that the rating is significantly exceeded.
Use the oil ratings as a guide, compare costs and availability, and try to stay with one product if possible. Availability becomes a factor for many of us; if you can’t carry enough with you, run something that you can find readily where you ride to fill the gaps.
Plain old TCW-3 won’t cut it in many of the higher-tech engines. Look for JASO-FC (and now FD) and ISO EGD ratings as indicators of a minimum performance standard for the newest, trickest engines. Mod packages may require extra quality and or quantity to provide adequate lubrication; consult with the engine builder or package supplier on what their experience has been.
ISO EGD is the “European” specification that slightly exceeds the “Japanese” JASO-FC. There is a new JASO-FD spec, as the ISO and JASO testing sequences have come closer together with the latest ‘FD’ and ‘EGD’ designations. Previously, the only difference was a 1 hour and 3 hour detergency - lubricity - ring groove - sticking test with JASO-FC and ISO-EGD respectively. Now, they are the same set of tests.
Maxima TundraR, a synthetic blend that is pretty clean burning, ISO EGD
Amsoil Interceptor This fully-synthetic oil is JASO-FC rated
Klotz Snowmobile Techniplateit it too is ISO EGD rated
Spectro that is also ISO EGD rated
Blue Marble claims to be ISO EGD rated
ARCTIC BLUE™ Synthetic Blend is qualified internationally: Exceeds API TC or TSC-3 in North America. Exceeds Japanese Automobile Standard Organization new JASO
specification "FC". Meets or exceeds performance requirements of International Standards Organization new ISO Global Specifications "GC" (ISO-L-EGC) and "GD"
(ISO-L-EGD).
Torco Exceeds JASO-FC / ISO-L-EGD / API-TC
Shell Advance Snow Ultra High Performance Synthetic Snowmobile Oil ISO-EGD and the JASO FC standard.
Maxima Lubricants Super-M Injector Oil Exceeds BIA/TC-W, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD & API-TC specifications
Legend ZX-2R exceeds NMMA (formerly BIA) TCW3, ISO-L-EGB and JASO FB specifications. ZX-2R is a mineral based, synthetically infused blend of superior chemical components designed to outperform the most expensive synthetics.
Legend ZX-2SR exceeds API TC, ISO-L-EGD and JASO FC+ specifications. ZX-2SR is a blend of the finest mineral base stocks “chemically infused” with nano-molecular additive technology.
Royal Purple-TCW-III (Robert said is good)
Citgo SuperGard Sea and Snow. Citgo is Venezuela’s oil company run by Hugo Chavez. The synthetic blend formula meets or exceeds the rigorous requirements of the API TC, JASO FC and ISO EGD classifications for 2-cycle air-cooled engine oils and also exceeds the performance requirements for JASO FA, JASO FB, ISO-L-EGB, and ISO-L-EGC. The JASO FC Certification Number is 001 CGO 535. SUPERGARD Sea and Snow is formulated primarily for use in snowmobiles and personal watercraft. It can be used in motorcycles, generators, lawnmowers, and hand held power equipment such as leaf blowers, trimmers, and chainsaws.
