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We made it to 10% with all the Hope & Change!

WASHINGTON –The unemployment rate has surpassed 10 percent for the first time since 1983 — and is likely to go higher.
Nearly 16 million people can't find jobs even though the worst recession since the Great Depression has apparently ended. The Labor Department said Friday that the economy shed a net total of 190,000 jobs in October, less than the downwardly revised 219,000 lost in September. August job losses were also revised lower, to 154,000 from 201,000.

But the loss of jobs last month exceeded economists' estimates. It's the 22nd straight month the U.S. economy has shed jobs, the longest on records dating back 70 years.

Counting those who have settled for part-time jobs or stopped looking for work, the unemployment rate would be 17.5 percent, the highest on records dating from 1994.

The jobless rate rose to 10.2 percent from 9.8 percent in September. The jump reflects a sharp increase in the tally of unemployed Americans, which rose to 15.7 million from 15.1 million. That was much larger than the net loss of jobs, which is based on a survey of businesses.

Economists say it could climb as high as 10.5 percent next year because employers remain reluctant to hire.

Friday's report is the first since the government said last week that the economy grew at a 3.5 percent annual rate in the July-September quarter, the strongest signal yet that the economy is rebounding. But that isn't fast enough to spur rapid hiring, raising the specter of a jobless recovery.

"You need explosive growth to take the unemployment rate down," said Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist for New York-based investment firm Miller Tabak & Co.

Greenhaus said the economy soared by nearly 8 percent in 1983 after a steep recession, lowering the jobless rate by 2.5 percentage points that year. But the economy is unlikely to improve that fast this time, as consumers remain cautious and tight credit hinders businesses. In fact, many analysts expect economic growth to moderate early next year, as the impact of various government stimulus programs fades.

Many economists also worry that persistently high unemployment could undermine the recovery by restraining consumer spending, which accounts for 70 percent of the economy.

One sign of how hard it still is to find a job: the number of Americans who have been out of work for six months or longer rose to 5.6 million, a record. They comprise 35.6 percent of the unemployed population, matching a record set last month.

Congress sought to address the impact of long-term unemployment this week by approving legislation extending jobless benefits for the fourth time since the recession began. The bill would add 14 to 20 extra weeks of aid and is intended to prevent almost 2 million recipients from running out of unemployment insurance during the upcoming holiday season. President Barack Obama is expected to quickly sign the legislation.

The employment report showed that job losses remain widespread across many industries. Manufacturers eliminated a net total of 61,000 jobs, the most in four months. Construction shed 62,000 jobs, down slightly from the previous month.

Retailers, the financial sector and leisure and hospitality companies all continued to reduce payrolls. The economy has lost a net total of 7.3 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007.

The average work week was unchanged at 33 hours, a disappointment because employers are expected to add more hours for current workers before they begin hiring new ones.

There were some bright spots in the report. Professional and business services companies added 18,000 jobs. And temporary employment grew by 33,700 jobs, after losing positions for months. That's a positive sign because employers are likely to add temporary workers before hiring permanent ones.

Still, economists expect jobs likely will remain scarce even as the economy improves. Diane Swonk, chief economist at Mesirow Financial, said that small businesses, a primary engine of job creation, still face tight credit and don't have the cash reserves to support extra workers.

And many companies are squeezing more production from their existing work forces. Productivity, the amount of output per hour worked, jumped 9.5 percent in the third quarter, the Labor Department said Thursday.

That's the sharpest increase in six years and followed a 6.9 percent rise in the second quarter. The increases enable companies to produce more without hiring extra people.
 
We passed the 787 BILLION stimulus bill because according to bo and the dem pundents, if we pass this legislation RIGHT NOW unemployment WON"T go over 8%.

and yet we import over 115,000 legal immigrants each MONTH to take vacant jobs.

We have over 8 MILLION illegals currently holding down jobs in the U.S..

The house just passed cap and trade that would add to the unemployment rate.
The new obamacare legislation would add additional taxes on all companies in the U.S., adding additional pressure to either trim jobs or lower wages.

Gee, isn't it nice to have the dems looking out for us (of cource the republicans arn't much better).
 
We passed the 787 BILLION stimulus bill because according to bo and the dem pundents, if we pass this legislation RIGHT NOW unemployment WON"T go over 8%.

and yet we import over 115,000 legal immigrants each MONTH to take vacant jobs.

We have over 8 MILLION illegals currently holding down jobs in the U.S..

The house just passed cap and trade that would add to the unemployment rate.
The new obamacare legislation would add additional taxes on all companies in the U.S., adding additional pressure to either trim jobs or lower wages.

Gee, isn't it nice to have the dems looking out for us (of cource the republicans arn't much better).

The Greatest lie ever told is that the Dems are for the working man, Maybe someday the working man will wake up & see the Dems for what they are!
 
The whole deal is....................... WE STILL CAN"T STOP THEM...........
we can't wait for the next election cycle.

They need to be stopped NOW:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
It couldn't have made it up to double digits when they are stated more and more that the recession is over. GDP is up...manufacturing is up

I'm confooosed! :face-icon-small-dis
 
It couldn't have made it up to double digits when they are stated more and more that the recession is over. GDP is up...manufacturing is up

I'm confooosed! :face-icon-small-dis

What has happened and is happening is a flatlining of jobs.
We have a HUGE surpluss of workers.
Companies were bloated with workers. They were counting on continuing to grow so they had the extra employees to help them grow.

The recession hit and they dumped all those extra employees.
Other companies either went under or downsized to a sustainable level.

Now companies are starting to produce again but instead of hiring more employees they are working their existing employees longer hours and more efficiently. They don't need those extra employees anymore.

So you end up with economic growth and zero job growth.
This is why we desperately need the get the illegals out of this country to free up the 7-9 million jobs they currently hold.
 
Ill kick ya in the nutts for sayin that ;)

:p I should've kept that brain fart to myself huh?

With all these companies running on bare minimum skeleton crews and expecting them to pump out 200% +.... makes me wonder how top heavy they are. Cut out some management and free up some cash.
 
:p I should've kept that brain fart to myself huh?

With all these companies running on bare minimum skeleton crews and expecting them to pump out 200% +.... makes me wonder how top heavy they are. Cut out some management and free up some cash.

But that's the problem.
over 70% of all job creation in this country is done by small buisness that has next to zero upper management. It's just the owner and maybe a family member or two. The rest are workers.

The major companies like IBM and such are slashing their management jobs just to dump the huge costs associated with em. They need to keep the production workers. Still the same problem, they cut to the bone and what is left has to produce more with less and they are.
 
It couldn't have made it up to double digits when they are stated more and more that the recession is over. GDP is up...manufacturing is up

I'm confooosed! :face-icon-small-dis

What the He!!, Obama and the dems said the recession is over?:confused:

I just can't believe that they would lie to us once again........the HORROR!!:rolleyes:
 
The one problem with just getting rid of illegals, is that our current generation of young workers don't want those jobs. How many kids work at McDonalds these days? When I go into one it is either retired folks or 100% Mexican. It is going to take a cultural shift and some really hard times to change that mindset.

I do agree, getting rid of them is a start, they shouldn't have been here hired for anything in the first place, but those farmers are going to have some hard times harvesting apples and cherries by themselves here in WA.
 
The one problem with just getting rid of illegals, is that our current generation of young workers don't want those jobs. How many kids work at McDonalds these days? When I go into one it is either retired folks or 100% Mexican. It is going to take a cultural shift and some really hard times to change that mindset.

I do agree, getting rid of them is a start, they shouldn't have been here hired for anything in the first place, but those farmers are going to have some hard times harvesting apples and cherries by themselves here in WA.

ah, but they DO want them now.
When it's the only game in town, you do it or you starve.
I went into a wendy's the other day. I didn't see one person working there that was under 40.
The job market is BAD right now. People will take what ever they can get.

Besides, even if the feds passed the SAVE ACT it would take 2 - 5 years to drive the majority of illegals out of the work force. It wouldn't be an overnight kind of thing.
 
ah, but they DO want them now.
When it's the only game in town, you do it or you starve.
I went into a wendy's the other day. I didn't see one person working there that was under 40.
The job market is BAD right now. People will take what ever they can get.

You're right. If it gets bad enough people will take anything. I don't think we are there quite yet. Unemployment pays better than most of these low end jobs. People will take advantage of extended unemployment, or work part time at a job they are qualified for, before they start picking crops. Also our administration loves entitlements so they will keep looking for free handouts until they are literally starving. An administration that was tough on illegals (which we don't have) coupled with our growing unemployment rates would be a match made in heaven.
 
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