Hi. Just posting a thread about something that happened to me about a month ago. I sold a sled in Saskatchewan to a guy from Alberta. He met me in Moose Jaw and gave me a certified cheque..... Which ended up being a counterfeit. By the time I found that out the machine was long gone. It was a 09 dragon with a Silber turbo on it. Be aware when buying or selling. Always run vin numbers to check for liens or if its stolen. And be super careful of payment types. I'm out the money and the sled but I really don't wanna see it happen to anyone else. If you have any suspicion of where this machine may be or need any more info feel free to pm me. Thanks
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What does it look like will keep my eyes open and always surfin for sleds.
It's a 09 800 155" dragon white in color. Has snow eliminators, snowmobile extreme air vents all around, gas rack, handlebar mounted digital air fuel and boost gauges, and had like 1600 miles on it. Very clean. Thanks all.
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DLUX
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Very interesting post! This just happened to me this weekend! I sold my 2012 boost it pro to Marcel Hochstein of olds snowest name sheriff he wrote me a company cheque from his company G&L bulk sales of olds, I dropped the snowmobile to him in revelstoke on fri night. All was good he inspected the machine and was happy even said he rode it many times last season when boost it owned it. Late Sunday I get a message from him saying he wasnt happy with the machine because he felt there was some issues with it, he proceeded to tell me that he didn't even ride the machine but found these so called problems while it was in the trailer on sat. Oddly enough I didn't hear from him until late Sunday. So I told him to take it to Neil at boost it and we will have it checked over 100% and if there were any repairs needed I would take care of it. At this time he refused and said "he did not trust Neil's repair work" and he was washing his hands of this machine by canceling the cheque he gave me to pay for the machine. This is a terrible act of bad business not to mention fraud! I contacted the local RCMP and they have opened a case and I will do what ever I can to bring a shyster like this to justice. The worst part is I asked him for a money order during our negotiations and he convinced me out of it saying things like "I'm worth over 30 million" and " oh you don't have to worry at all i am good friends with Neil and baker". I should have known better than to trust this turd but I did and now regretting it its really to bad people can't be real men and own up to the decisions they've made! I know we've all been there bought a machine and then realized it wasn't what we wanted or expected but that's not the fault of the seller! Seller beware cash in hand only!!
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judger101
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yes i do, you are legit, i work at a bank and there are TONS of fraudulent cashiers checks everywhere these days. unless you know the person and or have called their bank verifying that they issued the cashiers check take cash. by no means EVER take a personal check, even from friends or family, you never know what can happen and like the fella above they cancelled the check on him.
heck if none of these options seem good to you request that they wire the money to your bank after they inspect the machine.
Cashiers checks are still quite common in my area though, but most of these transactions are local in nature.
Additionally, if you look at the back of a cashiers check there are safety features built into them. next time you see one take a look at that. you could take the cashiers check to your bank with the buyer still with you and have them look over the check to check for things such as watermarks ect. and the safest thing would be to have your bank call their bank to verify that the cashiers check is valid and the funds are good.
heck if none of these options seem good to you request that they wire the money to your bank after they inspect the machine.
Cashiers checks are still quite common in my area though, but most of these transactions are local in nature.
Additionally, if you look at the back of a cashiers check there are safety features built into them. next time you see one take a look at that. you could take the cashiers check to your bank with the buyer still with you and have them look over the check to check for things such as watermarks ect. and the safest thing would be to have your bank call their bank to verify that the cashiers check is valid and the funds are good.
Official Checks (Certified or Cashiers Check) are fine, IF you call the bank and verify that the bank issued the check, and the amount and check number match what the buyer has in hand.
Official checks are written by the funds in that persons bank account are debited.
The problem sometimes is people do business after the bank is closed.
I would never do that unless you call the buyer and ask what the check number is and if it is a certified check or cashiers check, and then call the bank before he gets to your place. If it is fraudulent, the check number will not check out......
Make sure you protect yourself in these transactions.
Official checks are written by the funds in that persons bank account are debited.
The problem sometimes is people do business after the bank is closed.
I would never do that unless you call the buyer and ask what the check number is and if it is a certified check or cashiers check, and then call the bank before he gets to your place. If it is fraudulent, the check number will not check out......
Make sure you protect yourself in these transactions.
Also remember that most cases honest people selling/buying things don't mind the extra time it takes to verify everything is legit. Its the dishonest one's that get bent out of shape that usually have something to hide. Sounds like the old saying "buyer beware" needs to be updated to Buyer & Seller beware"
This really sucks!!! sorry to hear about your mis-fortune BOOST. Hopefully it will help other people from going through the same thing you had to.
This really sucks!!! sorry to hear about your mis-fortune BOOST. Hopefully it will help other people from going through the same thing you had to.
I bought 2 sleds off sw in the last 4 years. The last one I wired the money from my bank to his bank (we both bank at the same bank). I guess talking with the seller in both cases more than once helped tell the story if the guy is a straight shooter or not. That suck's that people do not honor their word.
Sure doesn't sound like the Marcel I knew. Had he been drinking? He is good friends with Baker. Apparently he isn't good friends with Neil. I can't see anyone saying they don't trust his work? Have you tried calling him?
The guys that bought my Cat from me last year went looking for three new Cats, found them, paid cash for all of them. It is just as easy to get cash as it is to get a legit cashier's check.
OK, i thought it might come to this. i am not going to get into a War of Words with anyone on the Keyboard...but there are 2 sides to this and for the record i never once said that i dont trust Neils work, it is actually the opposite. Although it is Dlux that i dont trust. this sled is ingesting antifreeze thru the engine, not just my opinion... Threats of coming to Olds & Beating me & then Killing me didnt go over too well with me either...if you are selling something as represented, then it s/b just that...i have many friends in the sledding world that will vouch for me with my credibility, this didnt happen over night or by being a crook as you have implied. If you have some recourse i suggest you take it, badmouthing me on a forum wont resolve much...
there is no fraud or criminal asspect of this If the motor had blown when he pulled it out would you give him his money back beside who would take scratchers and mudflap off a turbo.Marcel is a standup guy who I have known and dealt with for 12 years he just beat Dlux to the punch Good on marcel
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DLUX
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Lol ok marcel first off there were never any threats of killing anyone a good beating maybe but that's it that's all! Furthermore Neil has confirmed that everything is 100% good and the unit is fine. This sled was represented 100% accurately and if you were a real man you'd stand by your word! You wrote a cheque and took the sled then canceled the cheque that is a crook if you ask anyone! You have your money and I don't have my sled what's wrong with that pic?? We all know you rode it Saturday I even had people tell me they seen it at revy! I too have alot of peeps that I know in this industry and have sold many many turbod and modded sleds over the years and never once have I had a problem! I even went and picked you up a new belt fist thing sat morning because as you pointed out I said it included a new belt! I am a man of my word and have always been, too bad you cannot say the same for yourself!
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DLUX
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And for the record, had the motor blown I'd have droped a brand new engine in no prob! And I said that several times over but sometimes some people chose not to listen! As far as scratchers and mudflap it had perfectly fine scratchers on the rear skid yes the ski ones were off because the were wore and I removed them, mudflap?? Well I don't run a mudflap typically but you knew that marcel before you stroked the fake cheque!
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