anyone know the difference between the two? thanks
ves gold vs ves racing?
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I think and if I remember right I believe the polaris racing oil has a higher flash point than the ves gold I want to say ves gold has a flash point of 140 and where ves racing is 160 or 165 can't remember so someone help me out if I am wrong
A few years back a bunch of us got together and ordered 14 cases of the Poo Racing Red from our dealer(got a good price break). We've run it in over a dozen 800 Pro's and no problems reported. Exhaust valves have always looked clean, not gummed up. I'm currently on my third 800 Pro('11,'13, and current '15) while running the Red. Can't tell you about the VES Gold, as I've never used it. Been happy with the Red. The Red is a little more expensive than the Gold.
The viscosity of the VES Race and VES is slightly different, that is at 40degC or about 100 deg F. It doesnt specify at warmer temps to be able to give you a viscosity index or forcast out what weight oils they are cold vs warm.
Yes the flash points are slightly different VES vs VES Race (143degC vs 180degC) but i wouldnt say one oil is better based on that. that is just the flash point of when it would start to turn to vapor to allow combustion (289 deg F vs 356 deg F). Combustion temps are well above both of those and if your engine is requiring oil to live above 289 deg F in other areas you are going to have other issues.
If anyone can dig up more info on these two oils i can give my best guess and do a better compare. the SDS sheets on the polaris oils is pretty piss poor.
Yes the flash points are slightly different VES vs VES Race (143degC vs 180degC) but i wouldnt say one oil is better based on that. that is just the flash point of when it would start to turn to vapor to allow combustion (289 deg F vs 356 deg F). Combustion temps are well above both of those and if your engine is requiring oil to live above 289 deg F in other areas you are going to have other issues.
If anyone can dig up more info on these two oils i can give my best guess and do a better compare. the SDS sheets on the polaris oils is pretty piss poor.
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When I bought my Axys last fall I asked the dealer the same question, he recommended the Red. He said that they had run identical sleds for a season, one on gold and one on red. They then tore both engines down to compare. Both were good, but the one running the red had less wear and less build up. He also said that the red had more protection against hot spots. He's had a lot of experience with sled engines. I'm going to stick with red. Yes, a little more expensive, but not much.
The higher flash point of the racing oil might mean it will keep a hot bearing going longer in a racing environment since it's more likely to keep lubricating it rather than burning off. Bearing might still be bad after the race is done, but might make the difference between finishing or not.
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