Vector Mid Mount header design

[Turbo11T]

I am working on figuring out a header desgin for a mid mount conversion I am going to do for my vector mountain. I am looking for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISM, please do not post to just bash or tell me to buy one from impulse or another turbo company. Because I have not seen a vector header from any company that suits what I want to do.

So here is the deal. I am going to run a rev tank and am going to run that and trim my yamaha boss seat and tank cowling to fit. Below is a top view of the header design I have drawn up. Hoping someone can give me advice for collector end? In the setup I am going to do there is no good way to have a equal length header, without big money being spent. I do have 321 stainless tubing ordered as well as 304 1/2 flat bar for the manifold flange and turbo flange. So i am on the right track with materials. Pretty much just wondering on the transitions from the 3 to 1?

 

[Duke]

This one looks pretty good from Impulse.

 

[Turbo11T]

Agreed

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This one looks pretty good from Impulse.

I agree I have seen that one, Does anyone have a view of it into the turbo flange? If you do can you share and post it up? That would be great! Also that will not work on a vector, I don't beleive, but it is the same concept and what gave me the idea.

 

[johnny be bad]

i agree i have seen that one, does anyone have a view of it into the turbo flange? If you do can you share and post it up? That would be great! Also that will not work on a vector, i don't beleive, but it is the same concept and what gave me the idea.

the post would be in the way on that one! what year of vector?

 

[Turbo11T]

It is an 05 vector mountain.

 

[Duke]

the post would be in the way on that one! what year of vector?

Wildchild made some real nice chromoly steering posts for the Synergy Apex that made more clearance for the midmount kits? Maybe something similar would work 4 u guys?



Old picture, yes brass is bad.

 

[johnny be bad]

Personally id just buy a header from powder lites or alpine. And make it front mount. It would be a lot easier.

 

[Duke]

Personally id just buy a header from powder lites or alpine. And make it front mount. It would be a lot easier.

X2

 

[Turbo11T]

Header

A $1000 header and $350 down pipe is not an option for me right now. I beleive we can make a stronger ductile header well performing header for under $400 welded, material, etc and a down pipe for under $75. Not knocking powderlites or alpine I know they have great headers and are proven. But they are not what I am looking to use right now. In fact I have nothing but good things to say about my experience with Powderlites. Dave was very helpful in getting me a head spacer for the motor and giving me a heads up on a couple other little tricks they have learned.

So that being said, Hoping someone who has experience in building headers can give me the info I am looking for and not just for someone to tell me to buy a header that is not what I am trying to accomplish, If you want to pay for it maybe we can get it dont then.

So what should the collector merge look like from these three pipes?

 

[Turbo11T]

Synergy

On the synergy mid mount did they cut out the bulkhead frame over the track to get the room for the turbo? I am planning to cut it out so i can get the turbo about 3 inchs lower and have a straight header.

 

[Duke]

On the synergy mid mount did they cut out the bulkhead frame over the track to get the room for the turbo? I am planning to cut it out so i can get the turbo about 3 inchs lower and have a straight header.

Nope, no cut outs, angles up. The XP tank works great for the midmount set up.

 

[wilbilly]

turbo 583 so far looks good but you might want to incorporate some bracing for the turbo plate . I have repaired alot of headers all of the failure's have been from the turbo mounting plate cracking away from the pipes . I take stainless flat strap and weld one end to outer edge of the turbo mounting plate and i have it land on the pipe in a teardrop pattern .I have not had one brake so far going on to years . good luck

 

[johnny be bad]

A $1000 header and $350 down pipe is not an option for me right now. I beleive we can make a stronger ductile header well performing header for under $400 welded, material, etc and a down pipe for under $75. Not knocking powderlites or alpine I know they have great headers and are proven. But they are not what I am looking to use right now. In fact I have nothing but good things to say about my experience with Powderlites. Dave was very helpful in getting me a head spacer for the motor and giving me a heads up on a couple other little tricks they have learned.

So that being said, Hoping someone who has experience in building headers can give me the info I am looking for and not just for someone to tell me to buy a header that is not what I am trying to accomplish, If you want to pay for it maybe we can get it dont then.

So what should the collector merge look like from these three pipes?

$1350 FOR A HEADER AND DOWN PIPE?

 

[M5-]

I would buy a stainless turbo flange off of Ebay, they are cheap cheap, don't waste your time making one, as for the header to block flange you should be able to buy that reasonably as well, if you do make one have it milled flat after you weld it so you don't pull the threads out the head when you torque it up.

M5

 

[RMK4life]

Would it be possible to cut the flange off of the headers you already have and re use that?

 

[Turbo11T]

manifold

as far as the manifold flange goes i have the stainless bought already abd will have the outside profile cut on a cnc plasma and rough out the exhaust holes as well and finish machine the rest of it on a mill. also will mill it after welding as well to have a flat surface. also thank you for the great ideas from up above. this is the type of ideas i am looking for.

 

[smokie]

build a mock up using scrap and mock up flanges once you get the flanges were you want them make sure there is room for your pipe then make a jig brace it so it will not move when welding and if your header brakes you can reweld or re build without to much trouble do some research on welding stainless and procedures build a second header so you dont miss a good day of riding because of a cracked header doing two at once will not add much cost good luck and have fun with your build

 

[Turbo11T]

Here is a picture of the tunnel and bulkhead cut out to make alot of room for the turbo. Going to get it closed up this week and then hopefully my motor guy will have the head shim in and I can get the motor back in and get serious about working on the header.