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Upgraded Torsion Springs?

Hey Everyone! New to this site but have already picked up some good tips on here. One of them was to switch out the stock .359/77 torsion springs on my 07 600 switchback to the .375/47's (7042079/2080) because I'm about 270 geared up. I got them brand new and noticed that the arms are flared out slightly and that wasn't on the parts fiche. I have since installed and they fit-however the upper bogie wheel on both sides is really tight to the spring. I'm pretty sure I installed them correctly-it doesn't seem like there is much wiggle room since these springs are flared/thicker. Will this be a problem if the wheels are that close/slightly rubbing? My guess is once I'm sitting on the sled and the springs are compressed they will move inward and won't be so close? Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Only my opinion, but if the springs aren't rubbing anything like the bogey wheel or other suspension parts, you are better off having air gaps between the windings of the coil. This should help the spring do its job with less binding friction in the coil itself. I would think it would let it cycle through the suspension travel nice and smooth.
 
I think you have your wheels on backwards... the thicker part (with the snap ring inside to hold on the bearing) goes to the outboard side.. thinner part inboard. It will remain centered in the drive grooves on the track as the bearing is centered on the wheel and the thicker part is only there to have more plastic for the Snap Ring to engage.

If you still have a clearnce issue...

You could put some shim washers on the inside of the idler and move the set-screw-collar outward a bit... sand down the lock collar if you need some more clearance.
 
Mount the idler wheels as shown in this parts diagram.

MH

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Ok Mountainhorse...That makes sense...I wondered about that as I was putting back together. I put everything back the way it was before I took apart so apparently someone had installed incorrectly before? I should have checked the parts diagram. It also looks like I am missing the internal washers between the lock collar and bogie wheels too! Nice.....
 
There's something about this in one of the spring threads

I think that was with the guys who put .405 springs on. They were wearing out the wheels because of rubbing.

I've been running the .375/77's for the past two seasons without any issues, but will be swapping them out for the .375/47's this summer. I'm like PusherMan99 and weigh 230 (dry weight LOL) so hoping the 47's give a little more preload with a progressive spring throughout the travel. I'm not a fan of the bigger is better .405 route.
 
Much better now! Definitely more clearance:) I hope the dealer wasn't the one who put things in backward because that's who I purchased the sled from!
MoreSno-You'll like switching over to 47 degree springs...big difference even on the softest setting in terms of ride height/sag.
 
dont forget now with the fatboy springs the back end of the sled is jacked up so you will have a lot more ski pressure. You may need to loosen your limiter strap..i did.
 
I already upgraded the front track shock spring to the #225lb version from some suggestions I read on here to lighten up the front steering...limiter straps set in the middle right now? Should I make any changes?
 
The farther out the limiter strap, the more the front of the rails pushes down... this helps to unweight the front end.

If you noticed more steering effort, this will help...

But with everything, there is a trade off... the front end will lift more on WOT in a steep climb. Also, the angle of attack of the track is increased... the sled will not get up on top of the snow as easily as if the strap is sucked up.

A lot of this depends on rider weight, handlbar/riser position, ski shock preload and proper lenght, Rider position, snow type etc.

In deep snow... better to suck up the strap, the benefits of the flotation outweigh any heavy steering.

Everything adjusted has a cost and a benefit.

Limiter Strap Adjustment
One method of changing ski-to-snow pressure is to change the
length of the front limiter straps.
• Lengthening the straps decreases ski pressure under
acceleration.
• Shortening the straps increases ski pressure under
acceleration.

Set up Recommendations for Optimum Performance
(RMK / Switchback Rear Suspensions)

DEEP POWDER SNOW: Limiter strap in LOW
position for maximum lift and flotation
POWDER-HARDPACK: Limiter strap in STANDARD
position for overall handling and speed over snow.
HARDPACK: Limiter strap in HIGH position for
increased control and less transfer

IMO.. the 225 lb FTS spring in the 600 is a bit of overkill for all but the Hefty guys.

You can play with the upper shock moutning position..

From Holz Racing on thier supspension.. This applies to the stock skid
Every time the limit strap length is changed, the spring retainer should be loosened until the spring is fully
extended (zero pre-load) then tightened two turns. Shortening the limit straps without adjusting the spring retainer has the same
effect as increasing the pre-load. Riding with excessive pre-load will cause excessive trenching regardless of limit strap length.
Excessive pre-load may also result in coil-bind which will damage suspension parts. Pre-loading the spring more than
recommended will result in coil-bind which will destroy suspension parts and consequently void the warranty.

There are two options for installation of the upper end of the front shock to the upper portion of the front torque-arm—an upper hole and a lower hole. The upper hole makes
the shock stiffer, and gives you more weight transfer. The lower hole makes the shock softer and will offer less weight transfer.
 
Thanks MH for the info! I'm one of those hefty guys (270lbs) that need the bigger springs all around and I do probably about 60/40 trail to drift busting up here in MN:) After reading the info from Holz that you included I'm wondering if I have the front track shock mounted in the right hole??? Ok....now that everyone knows my weight/general riding areas...here is my current set up....limiter straps set in middle (stock set up)-#225 front track spring with shock bolted in upper hole on front torque arm (stock I believe)-.375/47 SQ rear torsion springs....Any changes? I'm a newbie to this suspension stuff and just want everything to work together properly:)
 
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