Truck discussion, Tundra vs. F250

[cmantle1]

ok, so im planning on getting a truck this spring. Ive been looking into v8 tundras, around the 2000 era. there going for around 14k for good miles, which is what i can spend, roughly. ive noticed 2000ish f250 diesels are going for somewhat the same price, with more miles. i plan on using the truck for towing a 2 place sled trailer, and hauling bikes, wood, etc. im not a diesel guy, so can someone give me some pros/ cons, and what your general thoughts are on these to vehicles? id like some input on reasons if which way to go,
thanks guys
chris

 

[diggin]

Look into the fuel mileage for the Ford, the first Tundras that were originally sold as 23-24 mpg highway. I'm biased of course as a new Tundra owner, I think there's no comparison when it comes to reliability..... . Two completely different trucks though, those Tundras were annoyingly small inside IMO.

 

[Mafesto]

Exactly.
The first series of Tundra was little more than a Dakota.
How do you compare that with a F250?

 

[snopropanther]

if the new current tundra cant handle the rear end of a golf cart on a tailgate how is the motor supposed to handle a load????

 

[buck50]

if the new current tundra cant handle the rear end of a golf cart on a tailgate how is the motor supposed to handle a load????

not too mention, i'm pretty sure the older tundra's can totally highmark a F250!!! but in actual terms, the will be no comaprison when it comes to hauling and towing, the diesel will always win between those 2 trucks. i'm not a ford or toyota guy, but i'd go with the f250 personally

 

[Meatman]

ride'em both and choose one that feels best to you

 

[skibreeze]

IMO, neither one. I just got an 04 Dodge with 58k miles and loaded with every option short of the laramie package for $15,500. Tons more room and power than a Tundra. Before you go start talking about Toyota reliability, I sold them for 3 years so I know that they aren't perfect either. I also drove a F 250 diesel and it only got 3 mpg better on the road, that doesn't cover the fuel price difference especially for a 2 place trailer. I didn't like the ride or the interiors on fords either.

 

[R J]

A debate that will turn ugly if it already hasn't.

Ford makes trucks and has for a long time. (Chevy, and Dodge included). Toyota makes cars and whimpy trucks and has a green agenda always present to appease that sector of the market. Sure they have come and made a big truck in which they say is changing everything but seriously after looking at one in a dealership just so I can see what it is I wouldn't buy one. They are chinsy, and are made more like a Corrola IMO then what a truck should be made like. As for where they are made and this and that, I'm not getting into that at all.

I would pick the Ford diesel over the Tundra with what you have given us. The Tundra will do the job, both vehicles will do the job but what you get when it comes to being a truck the only answer is the Ford for this conversation.

Don't get me wrong with any of the above. Toyota makes a good product, it's just not at the level of what Ford, Chev and Dodge produce for what a truck is meant to be, a truck. If you want a car with a box on the back that sits up nice and high then the Toyota Tundra is right for you, but if you want something that had what truck buyers wanted from the get go we all know what the answer should be.

 

[cmantle1]

ok, thanks for all the helpful input guys. i was thinking 250 because it has a little more wieght on it and seems like it would tow haul stuff better. i just know nothing about diesels and the manufactures in general. im a toyota guy (for offroad purposes), but am not close minded in any way to other companies, especially when it comes to big trucks. wat are some pros cons of diesel? and what of the three diesels do you guys like?.

 

[MOONMAN]

P/M MOB on here, he has an awesome supercharged Tundra for sale!
It's a killer deal!

 

[Good to Go]

ok, thanks for all the helpful input guys. i was thinking 250 because it has a little more wieght on it and seems like it would tow haul stuff better. i just know nothing about diesels and the manufactures in general. im a toyota guy (for offroad purposes), but am not close minded in any way to other companies, especially when it comes to big trucks. wat are some pros cons of diesel? and what of the three diesels do you guys like?.

Pandora's box you have opened...

Con's to owning a diesel? I've got three currently. One at 180k has the most maintenance spent on it. I think it was a serpentine belt. And fuel and oil filters. Yep, that's about it.

Their louder too.

 

[MARCUSO]

Diesels are louder, they need to be warmed up, they are not really better on fuel, the truck feels heavier, and with that comes front end parts wearing out faster,,,they smell,...BUT;

on the good side, I have never had to do anything other than regular maintenance to it, oil lube, filters, coolant flushes, brakes... ball joints etc...I have 240,000 km on mine and it runs like a brand new truck. If you are planning on keeping this truck for numerous years, then go diesel. I have total confidence that it will go for another 240,000 before an overhaul.

If you are unsure of the diesel when you are looking at one, et an oil analysys, it will tell you the things you want to know, like what is going on the inside, and a brief history of the previous owners habits, whether good or bad.

 

[diggin]

I own a new Tundra because my Duramax couldn't hack it. 2005 crew 4x4 2500HD with two leaking rear axle seals, leaking rear caliper, and a fuel rail that packed it in THREE times under 11000 lb load. 07 Tundra, now with 56000 k, same hauling load, NO PROBLEMS. AND IT IS A HALF TON, not even comparing apples to apples here. Gimme a stock ford or chev or dodge gas 1/2 ton with around a 5.7 l engine for me to spank in 0-60, 1/4 mile, and hauling 11000 lbs........ without crapping out. No chip required.
Instead of an opinion from someone who SAW one, how about an opinion from a disappointed 07 Tundra owner????

 

[Mafesto]

I own a new Tundra because my Duramax couldn't hack it. 2005 crew 4x4 2500HD with two leaking rear axle seals, leaking rear caliper, and a fuel rail that packed it in THREE times under 11000 lb load. 07 Tundra, now with 56000 k, same hauling load, NO PROBLEMS. AND IT IS A HALF TON, not even comparing apples to apples here. Gimme a stock ford or chev or dodge gas 1/2 ton with around a 5.7 l engine for me to spank in 0-60, 1/4 mile, and hauling 11000 lbs........ without crapping out. No chip required.
Instead of an opinion from someone who SAW one, how about an opinion from a disappointed 07 Tundra owner????

That's all good & fine, but he's asking about the 1st generation little tundras.
Just a compct truck, maybe a good one, but tiny nonetheless.

 

[RitzBlitz]

Get the diesel, you won't be dissappointed.

 

[Hunter2008]

Go Big Go Ford

 

[SXViper]

" i plan on using the truck for towing a 2 place sled trailer, and hauling bikes, wood, etc."

Sounds to me like the F250 might be a little over kill for what you want to do. I don't know of to many 2 place trailers that weigh over 7K. I can tell you from experience that the Tundra is going to more than enough truck for what you have described above.

However there are plenty of people out there that think they need a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel to haul two snowmobiles. If I were you I would show up at the dealer with your sleds on the trailer and drive both trucks with it on behind and decide for yourself.

 

[HighonBoost]

However there are plenty of people out there that think they need a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel to haul two snowmobiles. If I were you I would show up at the dealer with your sleds on the trailer and drive both trucks with it on behind and decide for yourself.

Everyone on here thinks you need a 1 ton to haul a 10ft. 2x4; I'm surprised to not see more people driving around in kenworth sport cab/chassis trucks. lol.

You would be fine with an older tacoma also; just the cab is a little smaller than the Tundra.

 

[94fordguy]

They are two completely different vehicles

Plain and simple! Personally, I do like Ford trucks, but to keep this to a somewhat un-biased opinion, think about what you really want to use the truck for, and what you want in terms of comfort as well. Sure, an "older" smaller Tundra should be able to haul your 2 place or motorcycles just fine, but is that all you will want the truck for? If you decide in the future that you need or want to pull or especially haul more, then you couldn't go wrong with the F-250. The larger F-250 provides interior room, hauling capacity, and towing capability to spare. As you mentioned, the increased weight of the vehicle will provide superior traction on snowy/icy roads where you want to have as much control over your load as possible.

Now comes the heresay... As I have not personally owned a 7.3 diesel, many people that I know have, aswell as all the research I have done on them. From almost everything I have heard and read, the 7.3 was an excellent engine with few problems and will easily go many hundreds of thousands of miles, and they will take a real beating too!


My vote -> go with the Ford

it's my opinion, but it's an honest one

 

[R J]

Who says parts on the heavy trucks are more expensive when it comes to front end stuff?

I only spent $1400 on upper and lower ball joints on my 1 ton a week or two ago. That wasn't a kick in the nuts I don't know what is.