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tire siping worth it?

Vern

Vern

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has anyone got there tires siped? was it worth it? reason i ask is this is my first winter with my lift and 35" micky thompson ATZ's on my chev and i can already tell its gonna be a long one. we went up for the first ride yesterday and on the slushy icy roads my tires suck, i actually had to blow a stop light with the fourplace on back cuz i couldnt get the truck stopped and i was only doin about 25-30 mph and i started slowing about a half a block from the light, scary sh**. i'm sure the biggest problem is the width of the tires cuz they are about 13" wide, but i cant afford a new set just for the winter so what do ya think, will siping help?
 
yes siping will help in the winter. But it will hurt the life of the tire if you haul heavy loads in the summer or drive on gravel alot.
 
works great

I've had several sets of tires siped and it does make a big difference on the ice, it also lets them run a bit coller in the warmer months. The only real down side is if you do alot of gravel driving they will wear faster.
 
Vern said:
has anyone got there tires siped? was it worth it? reason i ask is this is my first winter with my lift and 35" micky thompson ATZ's on my chev and i can already tell its gonna be a long one. we went up for the first ride yesterday and on the slushy icy roads my tires suck, i actually had to blow a stop light with the fourplace on back cuz i couldnt get the truck stopped and i was only doin about 25-30 mph and i started slowing about a half a block from the light, scary sh**. i'm sure the biggest problem is the width of the tires cuz they are about 13" wide, but i cant afford a new set just for the winter so what do ya think, will siping help?
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although siping your tires will help considerably, there is NO substitute for a proper winter tire....you say you can't afford a set of winter tires, yet you just blew a stop-light, because you couldn't stop...ask yourself this...what's gonna cost more...$1500.00 for proper winter tires, or blowing another stoplight, and injuring, or killing someone, or wrecking your truck and/or trailer full of sleds because you couldn't stop, or stay on the road? yes, siping will help, but it's the actual rubber compound that makes the real difference...winter tires are designed to work in cold temps, as the rubber stays soft and pliable...your siped mickeys are still going to be a harder rubber, that WILL NOT work in the colder temps as well as a true winter tire...thems the facts...give it some serious thought:beer;
 
klubbo said:
although siping your tires will help considerably, there is NO substitute for a proper winter tire....you say you can't afford a set of winter tires, yet you just blew a stop-light, because you couldn't stop...ask yourself this...what's gonna cost more...$1500.00 for proper winter tires, or blowing another stoplight, and injuring, or killing someone, or wrecking your truck and/or trailer full of sleds because you couldn't stop, or stay on the road? yes, siping will help, but it's the actual rubber compound that makes the real difference...winter tires are designed to work in cold temps, as the rubber stays soft and pliable...your siped mickeys are still going to be a harder rubber, that WILL NOT work in the colder temps as well as a true winter tire...thems the facts...give it some serious thought:beer;
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while I agree about your theory... sometimes people just cannot afford new tires. At least he is trying to rectify the situation the best he can.

Get the tires siped and be a little more cautious in your driving! Logan canyon roads suck in the winter!
 
not a theory, but facts...and you're right, at least he's trying to make a bad situation better...but, nothing beats the proper gear...you wouldn't go sledding without the proper gear, would you? i'm guessing he has a fair bit of coin invested in his truck, trailer, and sled...it would be a shame to mess any, or all of that up due to poor tire choice...dude might just have to save up for the right tires...;)
 
I had my last set siped on a 3/4 ton dodge and got about 50,000 miles on them with a fair amount (15-20%) of dirt road travel. I think that it made a big difference on the snow and ice.
 
Greetings Vern,

Cheap and easy things to check offered for your consideration in addition to siping -

Confirm your truck and trailer tire pressure is within manufacture recommendation.

Four place trailer brakes functioning properly?

Proper trailer tongue weight?

I lived in Hyrum, UT from 1964 to 1972ish you have some great riding in your back yard!

Have fun, Craig.
 
thanks for the comments,

klubbo, i understand and agree with what your saying but another set of tires is just not in the cards right now or trust me i'd be all over it after how they performed that day.

i'm probably gonna get out and get them siped as soon as possible and hope it helps, and i thought i was driving pretty cautious but now knowing how crappy these things are on snowy roads im gonna really take it easy, better to get to the hills later than not get there at all. the weird thing was the canyon road was nice and clean, it wasn't til i got back into town that i had problems.

definately wont be buying these tires again, these are supposed to be there "all-terrains" but i've had full on mudders with better ice manners.
 
thanks agian for all the replys, i went and had my tires siped but haven't had any new snow for about 2 weeks so dont know how much difference it made but i think it will help.
 
My spin

Siping is good for helping traction but not the cure all. If you were having big time troubles siping will probably not be 'the answer'. You need good winter tires, I prefer studded too, good 'traction formula' (3/8" steel plate in the bed is what I use at about 750 lbs) or something that will weight the *** end down and counteract/balance the weight of the diesel up front. When I hear guys talk about the big miles they got out of some tires I laugh because the softer the tire the better for winter and the softer the tire the quicker the're gonna wear........:eek:
 
The biggest and most important factor on snowy/icy roads is the driver. There is no need for studded, siped, or winter tires on a 4x4, it doesn't hurt but it's not needed. I ALWAYS run mud terrains and rarely need 4wd on a icy highway. One big thing is keep your tires as low pressure as possible. Honestly, 4wd don't even need winter tires anymore, my truck will still stop on a dime on a icy road with a 2 place without brakes pushing it. Granted my truck weights 8500lbs empty, still doesn't matter. If you blew through a light that badly in 4wd something is wrong besides for the tires.
 
What Vinnee said ^^, if you have a turbo diesel, then NO!!!!!!!!, otherwise, yup!

The turbo diesels put so much torque to the ground, the tire tread lugs need the width to keep from just shredding off. Seen this with my buddies trucks (yes, they have REALLY heavy feet, and haul pretty big trailers, but...)

PE
 
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