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tire rub issue- help

av8er

av8er

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i took Les schwab's advice and installed 275/65r20 tires on my 2012 gmc 1/2 ton crew they are a 34.10" circumference tire, i have installed a 2.5" leveling kit. they told me it would fit without rubbing with the leveling kit
alignment has been done, they are rubbing bad, now what? install body lift, or a 4-6" lift what????? thank u in advance
 
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is it rubbing the bumper or inside the wheel well? i know on my 2500 chevy you have to zip tie the break line back out of the way.
 
I am thinking a lift won't cure the problem are you running an aftermarket wheel? If not you might need a bigger offset than the stock so it gets the tire and wheel further away from the hub. the downside to that is then my bet is its going to rub on the either the back of the fender or the bumper when you turn stop to stop
A lift may help but when your suspension compresses you will run into the same problem. My thought is a tire size that is not as wide
 
took it to schwab yesterday

they said to pull the plastic pieces out of the fender in the wheel well with either zip ties or bailing wire, they said that's what they do. pretty cheese dik to me.
I posted tires for sale, if I sell them I will buy a 33" tire they were expensive paid almost $1200 not including mounting and balancing.
 
av8er said:
they said to pull the plastic pieces out of the fender in the wheel well with either zip ties or bailing wire, they said that's what they do. pretty cheese dik to me.
I posted tires for sale, if I sell them I will buy a 33" tire they were expensive paid almost $1200 not including mounting and balancing.
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rednecksledder said:
If Schwab told you they wouldn't rub i would take them back. Just saying.
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I would deffinatly go back to the tire place and make them fix the problem. You will never sell those tires for close to what you paid for them. Demand that Schwab swap the tires to ones that work, and refund the difference. They told you they will work, so they must fix it.
 
tires are too tall. maybe you could do trimming. Im on 3.5 RC lift on my '09 silverado with 285/70/17, it does rubbing sometime because I had thick rubber on brand new tires but awhile it wear off, no rubbing.
 
first pages are kinda old so you can view the pictures and see what it look like on 2 or 2.5 level kit with 33 inch or big tires.
 
So yesterday i drilled holes in the plastic fender well

and pulled the plastic out of the way, as tight, and as far away as I could, it helped some. Schwab looked in there book and said it was O.K. but I did not buy the tires from them. I bought the leveling kit, the alignment and the mounting and balancing for them though from Schwab but not the tires
 
Check out NORCAL trucks or whatever you want to call it. Either duramax forum or diesel place. Have a good writeup on how to's on making more room for bigger tires on these new pickups. Got mine pulled back with wire and no rub.
 
I worked for Les Schwab for almost 16 years and every person's idea of "fit" varies. I personally will not say something will "fit" if you have to cut/remove, or alter the vehicle in any way. To me thats not fitting, thats forcing it to bolt on - but will lose it's function in the process. You wouldn't be able to put chains on if you had to, nor could you go up hunting or playing in the woods and stuff a tire into the fenderwell.

Someone above mentioned offset. The offset of the wheel plays a HUGE role in tire fitment. A higher offset will allow you more clearance, but then you run the risk of rubbing on your sway bar, torsion bar, or frame. The newer GM's need a ton of lift to clear a decent sized tire...and 80% of the time that makes the front hang the wheels a mile away from the body...looks retarded and reeks havoc on your wheel bearings. I would suggest going to a smaller tire and gain your overall drivability back.
 
i went so far as to take the rims to them before I bought tires

they looked them over and said the offset was good. then they looked in the fitment guide book and stated if I buy a leveling kit I can run this exact tire without issues. So I bought this exact tire but from a different source schwab wanted $60 more per tire than what I paid, then had them mount, balance and align the vehicle with the new tires. I have them posted for sale on here at a significant loss. If I sell them i will then buy a 33" tire. the 305/55/r20 is 33" but on back order. i really the the Toyo ATII's.
 
Oh god....that POS "fitment" book. :face-icon-small-dis

That thing came out around 10 years ago and it's been a bust ever since. The only thing worse than that book are the employees that swear by it like the damn bible. I've seen numerous amounts of wheel/tire combo's that "fit" according to that book and it involves everything from the typical cutting wheel, to hammer...basically everything but a torch. It's ridiculous.

I don't know if it's worth it to you, but if you cause enough of a stink...they will take them back. Weather it be by raising your voice in the showroom, or posting on LS's facebook page, or contacting the area manager. You do one of those three and they will return them.

Onto the Toyo product.

Those AT2's were suppose to come out 6 years ago. Toyo and Les Schwab are infamous for selling completely outdated product. They will sell the SAME tire in multiple sizes for 10 years or more. The Toyo Eclipse is one of them. And during that time, the competitors are releasing newer, updated versions of there products usually about every 2 years.

What I'm getting at is the AT2 is a tire that should have been released 5 years ago. On a 2500 or 3500 diesel pickup, I have seen those tires last anywhere from 12k to 35k at absolute most. The set that were absolutely torched in 12k were rotated religiously along with air pressure, no matter WHAT we did we could not get those things to last. Off a Powerstroke.

The Wild Country XTX is a better tire than the AT2 and it's been out for more than a few years now. And it does great in snow, has the severe weather symbol on the sidewall as well.

I know I probably sound like a disgruntled ex-employee, but I'm just being honest with ya man. LS has "trained" the general public into never questioning what they sell, we talked about it all the time in meetings. It is a completely different company now since the old man died and thats why I no longer work there. It's ran by a lawyer(WTF does a lawyer know about running a tire store), and the managers are a buncha younger, tell-you-anything-to-get-in-your-wallet type of people. Thats how they promote...by dollar signs. It's taken all of the honesty and hard working principles that Les trained us in and flushed them down the toilet.
 
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Just realized you bought the tires elsewhere.

Do the leveling kit or sell the current tires and buy the correct size. Thats about all you can do.
 
righto

bought them elsewhere, I did the leveling kit before I bought the tires also, The at2 just came out about 1 year ago, you are probably thinking of the original AT's. SCwab coudn't even get them here in PNW until after 2013, I bought this in OHIO. but it is a great tire so far, I'm very pleased with the tire just not the size
 
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