Timbersled info for 1st timers

[BC boy]

Hi all, my son & I are going to try out the Timbersleds this year. Were keeping our sleds though, we love sledding but some of our our friends are raving about snow biking.

I am having trouble finding forums to help with things to do for your bike etc. Some of the things I have heard that maybe someone can help with.

We both have Timber sled Long tracks. My bike is a 2011 Husaberg 570 and the other is a 2010 KXF 450.

1, I have heard that the KXF 450 with the air forks only needs a bag type fork protector to protect against ice build up and then put more air in than summer riding.
2. My Husy 570 apparently needs to have the front forks redone to stiffen up from stock. Expensive, does anyone ride stock forks, I weigh 225
3, Engines need to be protected from powder snow or they run way to cold and gas will get into your oil via shrunk pistons and reduce engine life.
4. I am told the KXF 450 should get a KTM Thermostat plumbed in.
5. I've heard that oversize footpegs for both bikes are a good idea.
6. Heard the Husy 570 can handle the extra wattage for hand grip warmers but the KXF 450 cannot. Battery heated gloves maybe? Bigger stator, if so from where?
7. I would guess you would want some real thin oil for both bikes,
8. Being you are on footpegs vs running boards and have a shifter I wonder what boots work the best for snow biking.

Any help would be appreciated.
Snow is starting to stay on the mountains here in BC

 

[CROW]

Definitely subscribing to this one as my son and I are doing the exact same thing this year, except the sleds are gone.

Since I'm new to all of this I can't provide much help, but I'm pretty sure the air forks didn't start on the KX's until 2013.

 

[grinney]

I run a 13 kx it has air forks the 10 does not for a thermostat I run the thermobob from wattman I cover my radiators with plastic and run a power sports tech Kevlar engine cover its nice it rolls down and ties up if warm out a temp gauge is a must also the new thermobob has a port for it for the intake I just run a home made snorkel instead Of a airbox I use the dobeck gen 4 for a tuner which I think is a must my bike ran rich at elevation you have to get a o2 bung welded in the head pipe for it I also wrap my pipe and coat it with silicone paint for exhaust wrap I also made a float plate out of 1/4 plastic from menards
Give Brad a call he should have everything you need for bolth bikes http://www.powersportstech.com
Bark busters are nice too saved my hand from a tree trunk last year I'm gonna run a led light bar with baja designs wiring kit I think I they have staters too but just warmers or a light should work alone without a upgrade

 

[tillbuilt]

Through my performance shop I do a lot of first time SnoMoto builds, and I have a lot of customers buy the parts that they need to build their bike for the snow. I have a very conclusive a list of things that are mandatory. Items that are nice to have, and things that are just cool. I'll help you work through that list.

I have spent the last four years building SnowMoto and have the pile of parts in the corner of my shop that I have tried that don't work on SnowMoto. So I can save you a lot of headach, and money.

Mandatory:

Thermostat- you have to have it to try and keep engine temps up. ThermoBob for injected or Avid with carb heater for carbed bikes with a carb blanket.

Front fork springs- I have them custom made for my riders weight and riding style. .58 - .62

Air intake - I sell custom pods for Yamaha YZ and Husaberg 70 deg. The rest I offer coaching on how to cut your air box.

I change my oil on every one of my bikes every three rides using Shell Rotella full synthetic T6 5W/40



Nice to have:

AME heated grips, they are the size of a standard Moto grip so you don't get arm pump from a large grip, and there heating element is a low wattage element that is insulated from the steel bars so you get maximum heat transfer into your hands. They are locked onto the bars with a clamp and do not turn on the bars. They also have adjustable heat settings, along with a low-voltage shut off so that if you accidentally leave them on when you stop your bike they won't completely drain your battery while sitting there. They also work on Moto bikes with no battery.

ProMoto Billet / Fastway:
Fit 1 hand guards with tapped bars and screw in bar ends so they don't move when they fall over in the parking lot or hit a tree. They also span the top of the risers to help lock everything together when you're using extended risers.
Risers, to get you up and back for a better rider position
Adventure foot pegs with the F6 cleats. The extra width and design of the cleats really help move the bike around when you're navigating super tight trees.

Engine schroud from J&L Snow Bikes, with a temp gauge. Thier kit has a very thick bottom helps deflect the snow from blowing your foot off the peg on super steep side hills, plus their shrouds fit very well along the sides to encase the motor and help keep your engine temperatures up where they should be.

Seat Concepts seat. I send your seat out and have custom foam and gripper cover installed so that it's much easier on your back side when you snow bike in the cold all day.

Cyclopes is what I sell for lights they do a great job of putting out bright, low power usage, without having to change the stators even on Moto style bikes. They also provide me with a full plug-and-play package with AME heated grips so really makes for a nice quick and easy install if you're doing grips and a light.

Lithium Ion Battery, I sell Earth X. They are lightweight and handle cold weather with big CCA to do the job that we need especially on bikes without kick starters.

Fuel Controller for injected bikes. I sell Bazzaz fuel controllers with autotune. I have found that these do a great job of controlled mapping of your air fuel ratio's. Our bikes sometimes need extra tuning to handle the cold weather we riding in to not wash fuel past the rings.

Extra tunnel rack, I have tunnel racks made with ratchet hold downs that hold the mountain addiction can or large bag firmly in most riding situations.

What is cool:

KMS Turbos, these units spool very fast, with very little lag, and make huge power for big-time tree riding fun.

NOS, I sell both BossNoss and Ice Age performance nitrous systems they each have their own advantages.


Just so you know I am a direct dealer for all the product mentioned above. If you need anything, let me know.

http://www.timbersledofcolorado.com

 

[JUDGED]

Have you had issues with the Earth X in colder temps?

 

[teal_210]

Hi all, my son & I are going to try out the Timbersleds this year. Were keeping our sleds though, we love sledding but some of our our friends are raving about snow biking.

I am having trouble finding forums to help with things to do for your bike etc. Some of the things I have heard that maybe someone can help with.

We both have Timber sled Long tracks. My bike is a 2011 Husaberg 570 and the other is a 2010 KXF 450.

1, I have heard that the KXF 450 with the air forks only needs a bag type fork protector to protect against ice build up and then put more air in than summer riding.
2. My Husy 570 apparently needs to have the front forks redone to stiffen up from stock. Expensive, does anyone ride stock forks, I weigh 225
3, Engines need to be protected from powder snow or they run way to cold and gas will get into your oil via shrunk pistons and reduce engine life.
4. I am told the KXF 450 should get a KTM Thermostat plumbed in.
5. I've heard that oversize footpegs for both bikes are a good idea.
6. Heard the Husy 570 can handle the extra wattage for hand grip warmers but the KXF 450 cannot. Battery heated gloves maybe? Bigger stator, if so from where?
7. I would guess you would want some real thin oil for both bikes,
8. Being you are on footpegs vs running boards and have a shifter I wonder what boots work the best for snow biking.

Any help would be appreciated.
Snow is starting to stay on the mountains here in BC

There are a ton of things that you can do to your bike to help it work at it's best during the winter, BUT you can also take a stock bike, bolt a kit on it and go have a great time.
Most people on here will try to tell you that you need thousands of dollars in aftermarket parts to have fun but that's not really the case. Either way, here's my take on your questions:

1. The 2010 KX doesn't have air forks, don't worry about that. If they end up feeling too soft, put some heavy duty springs in. You don't need custom ones, the .54's that you can buy on ebay will be plenty.

2. I'd recommend riding it for a while at first, you can tighten up the clickers and give it a go. If it's too soft then look at some different springs.

3. Running too cold is a problem for most people. I recommend getting a temp sensor from trailtech and monitoring your water temps. Chances are you will want a thermostat, thermobob and avid are good options. If that isn't enough, then look at something to keep snow of the motor, there are a couple options for that.

4. see above

5. Footpegs are nice, but not needed. I've gone 5 years without them.

6. I've ran heated grips in the past and have gave up on them. They're nice when they work but your hands really don't get as cold as you'd expect. Handguards do help keep the wind off.

7. Thin oil does help with starting, I run rotella T-6 in the winter.

8. I don't know on boots. I'll probably end up with some of the waterproof moto boots in the near future. Alpinestar corozal boots look nice.
I've had snowmobile and snowboard boots in the past, shifting isn't a problem they just don't hold up.

My advice - bolt your kits on and go have fun. Add parts as you feel they're needed.

 

[tillbuilt]

Two seasons ago I ran one for a test and it did not do the job. It would cut off low voltage to high, and would not work at low temps. I reported this back to them and they changed the technology in the cut out and they worked flawless last season with the new technology.

Have you had issues with the Earth X in colder temps?

 

[Rush44]

And just to clarify, Rotella is not a THIN oil. It's a winter weight oil that is light at cold temps (5 weight @ starting temps) and at temp is the same viscosity as any other 40 weight oil. So you are not running some thinner oil with less protection at temp. Do as the above posters suggest and stat/shroud your bike and get a temp gauge to monitor and know where your temps sit... don't assume, KNOW.

The KTM stats do not do enough to keep your temps up on cold days. I know some people have said they do, but the truth is they don't. You need an aftermarket solution like the Thermobob TB3 which has the 1/8 screw tap-in for a temp sensor already machined into the housing. Doesn't get any easier.

My mandatory must haves are: Thermostat w/ Temp Sensor, Plastic/Carbon Fiber skid plate, Bark Busters, Yuasa YTZ7S Lead Acid Battery (rock solid, never fail or sputter), Air intake or modified airbox. Everything after that is pretty much great to have, but not MANDATORY if we are using that word correctly.

In addition to that list I would say things I will always have on my snowbike are: Fastway Footpegs, Cyclops Penetrator series headlight, better seat, Fastway bar risers, Dobeck Gen4 AFR+ Fuel Controller, ice scratchers, cargo rack, Pro Circuit exhaust (FMF welding quality sucks compared to PC), nitrous, heavier fork springs, shock socks. Is this stuff mandatory? Nope. Do I like it all? Yep.

 

[BC boy]

Thank you

Thanks to everyone with all the great info! We will get to work, getting prepped up.