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The mystery of Global warming

Sturgis Sledder

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The mystery of Gloabal Warming

Some 3,000 scientific robots that are plying the ocean have sent home a puzzling message. These diving instruments suggest that the oceans have not warmed up at all over the past four or five years. That could mean global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists aren't quite understanding what their robots are telling them.

This is puzzling in part because here on the surface of the Earth, the years since 2003 have been some of the hottest on record. But Josh Willis at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory says the oceans are what really matter when it comes to global warming.

In fact, 80 percent to 90 percent of global warming involves heating up ocean waters. They hold much more heat than the atmosphere can. So Willis has been studying the ocean with a fleet of robotic instruments called the Argo system. The buoys can dive 3,000 feet down and measure ocean temperature. Since the system was fully deployed in 2003, it has recorded no warming of the global oceans.

"There has been a very slight cooling, but not anything really significant," Willis says. So the buildup of heat on Earth may be on a brief hiatus. "Global warming doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last. And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."

In recent years, heat has actually been flowing out of the ocean and into the air. This is a feature of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino. So it is indeed possible the air has warmed but the ocean has not. But it's also possible that something more mysterious is going on.

That becomes clear when you consider what's happening to global sea level. Sea level rises when the oceans get warm because warmer water expands. This accounts for about half of global sea level rise. So with the oceans not warming, you would expect to see less sea level rise. Instead, sea level has risen about half an inch in the past four years. That's a lot.

Willis says some of this water is apparently coming from a recent increase in the melting rate of glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica.

"But in fact there's a little bit of a mystery. We can't account for all of the sea level increase we've seen over the last three or four years," he says.

One possibility is that the sea has, in fact, warmed and expanded — and scientists are somehow misinterpreting the data from the diving buoys.

But if the aquatic robots are actually telling the right story, that raises a new question: Where is the extra heat all going?

Kevin Trenberth at the National Center for Atmospheric Research says it's probably going back out into space. The Earth has a number of natural thermostats, including clouds, which can either trap heat and turn up the temperature, or reflect sunlight and help cool the planet.

That can't be directly measured at the moment, however.

"Unfortunately, we don't have adequate tracking of clouds to determine exactly what role they've been playing during this period," Trenberth says.

It's also possible that some of the heat has gone even deeper into the ocean, he says. Or it's possible that scientists need to correct for some other feature of the planet they don't know about. It's an exciting time, though, with all this new data about global sea temperature, sea level and other features of climate.

"I suspect that we'll able to put this together with a little bit more perspective and further analysis," Trenberth says. "But what this does is highlight some of the issues and send people back to the drawing board."

Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. But they say there are still things to learn about how our planet copes with the heat.

How about maybe it really doesn't exist?
 
This is good reading! Its nice to see some imput from a reasonable and seeminly less biased sorce that does not insist that they have the answers. I have said it for a long time and this artcle kinda says the same thing .

"WE DONT UNDERSTAND GLOBAL ANYTHING"

and we probably wont really have enough data for 100's of years ,but this will not stop people like Al Gore from overstating the facts about stuff like this soley on the basis that they need to feel important and those treehuggers are the only audience that will listen .
 
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Not saying global warming is true. But if all the cold ice is melting into the ocean to make the water rise. Would that cool the water down????
 
They are correct about one thing...the glaciers and ice caps have been and are melting. They started melting 10,000 years ago at the close of the ice age as a matter of fact....and they will continue to do so. Chit, the upper half of the United States was covered by ice 10,000 years ago...a land bridge existed between Alaska and Russia. Desert sands which now have oil used to be rainforest...warm weather fossils are found in Antarctica. Things will change and continue to do so. And why the concern for global warming? What are the risks...they don't know. I'd be much more concerned for global cooling (as was predicted by the same types in the 70s). With cooling we'd have a tough time growing food and providing habitat for people and animals. My understanding is that we are living in one of the most stable periods in earth's history (minus the frickin nuts that say we are in danger).
 
I'm all for global cooling...hopefully we'll be riding in the sierra before i die:D more places to play....ah what a playground that would be on sleds...ever changing monstrous drifts as far as the eye could see....don't forget your probe, beacon and now the GPS will become a must have :D:D :beer;
 
There is a direct link between global warming and pirates. When there were more pirates (say 250 years ago) the earth was cooler:cool:. Now most nations frown on being a pirate and it's popularity and #'s have shrunken. No surprise here that the earth has warmed up.

Do you want more pirates:cool: or the earth to warm up .... make up your mind already.


We'll let Hollywood dwell upon that for a while.:beer;
 
Global Warming = greatest urban legend ever.


Al Gore needs to be burned at the stake for winning a peace prize for that sh!t.
 
....and now they're calling it "Climate change" instead of global warming. Backpedal, backpedal...........

It is the biggest myth in the history on mankind. We've been keeping records for what? 100 years? That is an extremely small length of the earth's history. The climate has always changed and will continue to, the earth is a living thing in a sense. We are as close to understanding the way this earth changes as we are to time travel. Some people don't seem to understand just because the weather 10 years ago seemed normal to us does not make it normal for the earth. People need to get "normal" out of their head.
 
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"Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming."

but a few years of global warming is enough to start a world wide panic.
 
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