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The effects of the auto bankruptcies

jsledder

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How many companies will go bankrupt because of the debt being wrote off by GM and Chrysler??? Reports are saying that GM will begin filing Chapter 11 on Monday.

Here's 1.... I can see a huge trickle down effect, now their suppliers will be left with huge debt and they'll be next. If your looking for a career, check out becoming a bankruptcy lawyer.


One of the biggest makers of automobile parts in the United States is bankrupt, the latest casualty of a slumping automobile industry.

Visteon Corporation makes lighting systems, electronics and climate-control systems for U.S.-based Ford Motor Company and Korea's Hyundai Motors, among others. But the company said Thursday it has too many expenses that "are not sustainable given the current economic environment."

Visteon employs about 31,000 people. Earlier this year, the parts supplier announced it was putting many of its employees on a four-day work week and cutting their pay by 20-percent.

Visteon is a former division of Ford Motor Company and still its largest parts supplier.

It became an independent company in 2000 but has not made money in nine years.

Documents filed with a federal bankruptcy court show Ford will provide Visteon with the money it needs to operate while the parts-maker restructures.

Slumping car sales have been hurting companies that supply parts to the major automakers, prompting many to ask the U.S. government for help.

They warn millions of workers could lose their jobs unless the government steps in.

A report by the research firm Grant Thornton in may found that up to 40 percent of U.S. auto parts suppliers are in financial trouble.

Auto parts suppliers in Japan have also reported losses this year, while India's Tata Motors has delayed payments to some of its suppliers because of plunging car sales.
 
The only thing wrong I see is the trickle is going to be a flood, There are so many suppliers just hanging on they will never make it. :(

Visteon employs about 31,000 people. Earlier this year, the parts supplier announced it was putting many of its employees on a four-day work week and cutting their pay by 20-percent.

Visteon is a former division of Ford Motor Company and still its largest parts supplier.

It became an independent company in 2000 but has not made money in nine years.

Documents filed with a federal bankruptcy court show Ford will provide Visteon with the money it needs to operate while the parts-maker restructures.

Its just part of the start people & the effects will be FAR reaching!!!!!
 
It became an independent company in 2000 but has not made money in nine years.[/I]

So when auto sales were at there peak, this company's business model didn't even allow them to be profitable at that point? I have no insight into this company or who runs their organization or how they operate but if they are a spin off of a major auto manufacturer, you've got to suspect at a minimum that they may be union heavy and set up similar to the automakers.

The scary thing is if Ford and Hyundai are their biggest customers and these guys are going under, what's going to happen to the suppliers whose biggest players are Chrysler and GM. As much as the suits in DC say things are looking up and on the verge of improving, it sounds like its going to be getting worse before it gets any better. I'm going to predict more bailout money from the magical negro for this industry.
 
It became an independent company in 2000 but has not made money in nine years. :rolleyes:

What is not known is many of the Visteon employees are from Temp services making way less $$$$$ & Bennys that the Ford UAW employees & still could not make money.

The next couple weeks are going to be ****ly:confused:
 
I too believe this is just the begining..., we as a country can't fix every failing company by throwing tax :mad:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$:mad: down a vortex!!

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the "trickle" effect will be massive...truly tip of iceberg!! think of all the support businesses like the hot dog guy...the hardware store...the specialty parts suppliers for Visteon...the grocery stores...etc.

And yet, there are winners and losers in this whole thing...all you ever have to do is follow the money...who is getting it, and who is losing it...
 
the "trickle" effect will be massive...truly tip of iceberg!! think of all the support businesses like the hot dog guy...the hardware store...the specialty parts suppliers for Visteon...the grocery stores...etc.

And yet, there are winners and losers in this whole thing...all you ever have to do is follow the money...who is getting it, and who is losing it...


The Bankruptcy Parasites
GM's Chapter 11 filing will be bad news for everyone—except the lawyers, accountants, and paper-pushers who'll make a mint off it.
By Daniel Gross
Posted Thursday, May 28, 2009, at 6:03 PM ET

Who's getting rich billing for the cost of billing?The American system of bankruptcy is quite efficient at handling the disappointment of parties to whom much is owed and little may be coming. The bankruptcy code sets up a hierarchy of the unpaid in which any sums of cash given to those highest on the ladder mean less money for those on the bottom rungs. Frequently, stockholders are simply wiped out, and the value they once held goes to creditors.

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SINGLE PAGEYahoo! Buzz FacebookMySpace Mixx Digg Reddit del.icio.us Furl Ma.gnolia SphereStumbleUponCLOSEWhen a business is relatively simple—a shoe retailer—or when many of the discussions and arguments about how to restructure debts have taken place before the formal filing, companies can get in and out of bankruptcy relatively quickly. Circuit City filed for bankruptcy on Nov. 10, 2008. The store liquidations were completed by March. In May, Systemax acquired the Circuit City brand and Web site. Done. Chrysler filed for bankruptcy on April 30, and reports suggests the new Chrysler could emerge from bankruptcy next month.


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Daniel Gross heard the bankruptcy rumblings and predicted the GM breakdown. Christopher Beam explained why conservatives were so happy about this, and Chris Suellentrop let us know exactly what Chapter 11 bankruptcy is. But not all bankruptcies are efficient, short, and sweet. When the proceedings are contentious, or if there's a lot of financial and industrial spaghetti to be untangled, the proceedings can go on for many months, even years, in which case the system grows somewhat less efficient. The creditors and debtors are joined by a third set of wily players—the suits, lawyers, accountants, and financing wizards required to fix, defend, wind down, and restructure a failed company.
 
Congressman meets with local auto suppliers and dealers
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Congressman Dave Camp speaks with local business owners and dealers about the future of the auto industry.

By Courtney Rehmer
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 8:47 p.m.


Another hit to the Big Three as General Motors nears bankruptcy. Congressman Dave Camp is spending the next couple of days touring auto and tool suppliers and dealers in northern Michigan.

" It's a real concern. There are certainly direct jobs related to the auto industry in Michigan, also the related jobs in car dealerships and supply chains. My concern today is listening to them so they can let me know what I can do to help their concerns," Congressman Dave Camp said.


Camp toured Tool North and Bill Marsh Automotive in Traverse City.The congressman listened as people voiced their concerns and ideas on what they think should be done to make things better.

" Clearly the government is running these industries... many of the people that are running them don't have experience in the auto business. I'd like to hear what thoughts and suggestions they have, " Camp said.


The congressman says if the bankruptcy goes quickly like he says Chrysler's seems to be, GM may be able to turn things around.

" I think there's an opportunity for them to come out on the other side... ability to try and reorganize and restructure and become more competitive," Camp said.


But the congressman says if the bankruptcy is drawn out the impact could be huge!

" If it goes badly it could be tens of thousands of jobs in related industries if those supply chains collapse, or if other dealers in a significant way are impacted," Camp said.

Camp says he would like to see more of an increased demand for the product.

" I think really part of the problems, certainly the financial problems last fall, and some of it is related to the difficulty to get credit and buy a car. I'd like to see us do something to stimulate the demand. I think that could make a big difference, " Camp said.

Hmmm could this be a gas guzzler tax coming on the older autos?
 
What a joke, congressmena touring traverse city. It is a great summer tourism area. HE IS ON VACATION AND BILLING IT TO TAXPAYERS. There is not that much manufacturing in TC. Nothing compared to what exists in southern michigan.
 
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