I just built up a 2013 KTM 450, I followed Mtn-Doo's "best all around" build. I've only had it out a handful of times but it is by far the best $ ive spent in a long time. Thanks to Mtn-Doo and Rush for your help and pm's. My buddy has a kick start and he sure is envious... Once the bike is warm it's not as big of an issue for him. If i was a really good wrench i'd look at doing the two stroke similar to mtn-doo's new bike. I'm just more of a gas-and-go rider. Don't forget to add in all of the little extras, ie; lights, heated grips, hand gurard, new pegs, exhaust, etc. i was well $800 but so far it is awesome!