Install the app
How to install the app on iOS

Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.

Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.

  • Don't miss out on all the fun! Register on our forums to post and have added features! Membership levels include a FREE membership tier.

t16 on apex

B

boost mod

Member
i bought a mcx second hand rear mount for a apex.
i was told it had a t16 i put a 310 chip in it and at 8000ft it holds 17 easily at 2200 it will go alot higher if i don't watch it.reading other post people are only getting 14 out of a t16. what can you get out of a t16?
 
The small turbo will make boost , but over 15 pounds it starts to loose efficiency and generate lots of heat .

If you can get 17 or 18 pounds out of it it will be less horsepower than a bigger turbo at the same boost level.

Hot air expands this = boost pressure but not power.

Also a hotter intake temp puts you closer to detonation, so go higher on the octane.

Personally I would keep it down to 14 15 psi just to be save.

Talk to the MCX guys direct , they know the deal on what is save for there kit.
 
can you turn a t16 in to a t19 and if so is it worth it what is it's boost numbers? and do you have to change the map?
 
Alamo turbo here in Edmonton can do the modification (they actually send it to the Calgary branch) to change the 16T to the 19T. If you already have the 310 mapping then you are good to go, no other mapping required.
 
That 310 mapping was never a good idea with the 16T. Its way off the map and to be honest I bet it doesn't make 310 anyways. Theres a reason MCX offers 290 now with a 19T cause thats pretty much all the 19T will do. Here's a compressor map for the 16T. The scale on the left is pressure ratio so 2.0 is 14.7 lbs or 2 x sea level pressure. As you can see at 2.0 the map clips off at basically the max CFM. You can still add boost but you aren't moving any more air you are just making heat and cracking exhaust compenents. When you do the math of the CFM requirements of the motor at 1000cc the air just ain't there.


M5

td04h-16t-jlspec.gif
 
Last edited:
the larger the turbo the more lag is this right or can you clutch for it?
and is the t19 the only upgrade for the t16 or is this mcxpress 400 posible to?
 
the larger the turbo the more lag is this right or can you clutch for it?
and is the t19 the only upgrade for the t16 or is this mcxpress 400 posible to?

The 400 turbo is another turbo then the 16T and 19T.
McXpress sell this 400 turbos if you want to have some more hp then the 19T give:)
Here is a video of a Apex with the Mcx 400 turbo, and Rb3 to control timing this Apex run on E-85 but this turbo work nice on pump fuel.
There is a Nytro here in Norway that also use this mcx 400 turbo and its got 360 Hp and its going like cracy!!
.
.
 
Here is a video of that Nytro with the 40 turbo, not much turbo lag here :)
.


Here are some pictures of that turbo mounted in a Nytro

IMG_3366.jpg IMG_3367.jpg IMG_3369.jpg
 
Last edited:
That 310 mapping was never a good idea with the 16T. Its way off the map and to be honest I bet it doesn't make 310 anyways. Theres a reason MCX offers 290 now with a 19T cause thats pretty much all the 19T will do. Here's a compressor map for the 16T. The scale on the left is pressure ratio so 2.0 is 14.7 lbs or 2 x sea level pressure. As you can see at 2.0 the map clips off at basically the max CFM. You can still add boost but you aren't moving any more air you are just making heat and cracking exhaust compenents. When you do the math of the CFM requirements of the motor at 1000cc the air just ain't there.


M5

Do you have the compessor map for the 19T also ?
 
That 310 mapping was never a good idea with the 16T. Its way off the map and to be honest I bet it doesn't make 310 anyways. Theres a reason MCX offers 290 now with a 19T cause thats pretty much all the 19T will do. Here's a compressor map for the 16T. The scale on the left is pressure ratio so 2.0 is 14.7 lbs or 2 x sea level pressure. As you can see at 2.0 the map clips off at basically the max CFM. You can still add boost but you aren't moving any more air you are just making heat and cracking exhaust compenents. When you do the math of the CFM requirements of the motor at 1000cc the air just ain't there.


M5

290hp all it will do? Maybe on a Apex but not on a nytro:face-icon-small-ton
.
 
290hp all it will do? Maybe on a Apex but not on a nytro:face-icon-small-ton
.

Don't believe everything you read :).
So if i have 290hp and rise boost i shouldn't notice any diffrence?
My Apex run's as an burned ferret when rising boost, BIG diffrence in power!
I would "guess" an 19T can flow up to 330-340hp, it's not much of an guess when we've seen it in real life!
 
I was told the t19 was the biggest they have
i think it is still offered in sweden.

Lol, noooo, the 19T is a very small charger compared to their race kit's, they have an MCX550 for ex, and some other stuff that a customer can special order, 19T is the biggets in regular volume kit's.
 
290hp all it will do? Maybe on a Apex but not on a nytro:face-icon-small-ton
.


I guess maybe I should have qualified this statement. True the 19T will move up to 540 CFM as shown on the map, BUT, your'e also making heat so yah may make 340 hp or whatever the number is but if you ride it 40 days a year you WILL crack the stock headers, so what I probably should have said is that 290 HP is the practical limit for that turbo, if you want 340 hp I'd be looking for a larger turbo. Maybe thats just me.

M5
 
Premium Features



Back
Top