sway bar or not?

[Snappy Sledder]

What I want to know is this:
who rides with a sway bar and why?
who doesnt ride with a sway bar and why?


would removing it make it easier to boondock, tree ride, climb, etc ?

 

[powdermuncher]

Just got back from a ride with a new rider, pure boon-docking and tight tree riding.

He rides a vector. He had a heck of a time so I took of one side on the sway bar. He was in total amazed on how much easier it was to boon-dock and turn tight around trees. In his words it was 40% less effort to ride the same line .

I do sometimes use the sway-bar on my turbo RX1 if I go out with other turbos where I end up spending a lot of time above 60 MPH in rough terrain.

The run out of some off the smaller drag strips around here are real rough an hitting bumps at warp 10 it will help to keep her on a even keel, if you don't spend much time above 60MPH you will be way better of without it.

 

[SRXSRULE]

I had this great idea to use clevis pins on a sway bar link so I could quickly remove a link to free up the sled. 30 minutes of boondocking and my stupid Idea cam clear. The pins and my link was gone so I got to ride the rest of the trip with no sway bar. It sucked! didnt really notice it that much better in the trees and it was harder to side hill. Plus is was very unstable when landing a jump.

Maybe if you cranked the springs or air pressure way up it would work better. Eric

 

[powdermuncher]

I forgot to mention to crank the stock springs al the way up else it does wallow a bit. Heavier springs or even a good set of after market shocks make you almost completely forget that sway-bars even exist .

Bottom line without the sway bar you need more spring --- good shocks are more noticeable because each shock now works completely independent -- no more help from the other side though the sway bar.

 

[Timberwolf1050]

Never really looked at it too close but have been thinking about removing the sway bar on my Nytro. How hard is it to remove it. Any cutting involved? Like I said, I havent really looked at it too closely so please forgive my ignorance.

 

[blackhillsnytro]

I just removed my bar last week, its not a fun job. Skid on bottom must be removed, there are two bolts that go into the bracket from the bottom, and two that go in from the motor side. These are a pain to get to because of the room between the motor and the sway bar bracket, and they are tight as h..l. On the clutch side, had to take a small bolt out the the motor first, before I could get the bolt out of the bracket.

Like powdermuncher said, a good aftermarket shock would help a lot if you run with out it. No complaints in the trees or climbing, but nothing to brag about if you have to run trails. I removed mine for a few inches of additional clearance below the a arms, I ride off trail 95% of the time.

 

[powdermuncher]

For the Phazer and Nytro you should get better shocks anyway --- Yamaha went out of there way to sell us junk shocks on those sleds. Even with the generation 2 float shocks you will see a big difference, the Ohlins or Float evos rock.

 

[MotoPsycho]

Nytro, no sway bar, fox floats.

I wouldn't recommend running stock shocks w/o swaybar - very unstable and "squishy" feeling.

I did it to lose weight, and with the floats it isn't needed. As far as removal on a nytro, there are some threads on it, but I found that heating the bolts with a common propane soldering torch helped IMMENSELY! I didn't have to remove anything other than the lower panels to get mine off, and it saved about 3 lbs .