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Storm 8-12 NOV Tues-SAT

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So this storm 3NOV-6NOV is measured in inches cause it is dumping in the ocean.

NEXT possile (but becoming less likely) big storm 8-11 NOV Tues-Fri is uncertain so the weather man wont say. One computer model says we are getting a dumping and another says it will dump in the ocean.

RENO forecaster won't say and HANFORD forecaster says right now predicting this storm won't make it to KINGS CANYON and stay north




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
200 PM PDT THU NOV 3 2011

.SHORT TERM...

DEEP UPPER LOW CONTINUES TO MOVE INTO THE WEST COAST THIS
AFTERNOON...BRINGING STRONG WINDS TODAY AND SNOW TO THE REGION LATE
TONIGHT. MOISTURE TAP FOR THIS SYSTEM IS MEAGER...ALTHOUGH THE
STRENGTH OF THE LOW AND JET DYNAMICS ARE MUCH BETTER FOR GETTING
SOME PRECIP THIS EVENING.

GRADIENT WINDS HAVE INCREASED ACROSS THE REGION...WITH GUSTS IN THE
45-55 MPH RANGE ALREADY THIS MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON. THERE ARE
A FEW WIND PRONE AREAS...SUCH AS GALENA...HITTING CLOSE TO 65
MPH...BUT THESE ARE FAIRLY LOCALIZED. BLOWING DUST IS BEING REPORTED
AT FALLON NAS...BUT SO FAR REDUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY SEEM TO BE
MINIMAL. WIND STATEMENTS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON AND
EVENING AS THE COLD FRONT MAKES ITS WAY CLOSER TO THE AREA.

MODELS HAVE TRENDED A BIT SLOWER WITH THE SPEED OF THE COLD
FRONT...LIKELY BECAUSE THE BACKSIDE JET IS STRONGER AND DIGGING THE
ENTIRE TROUGH FURTHER SOUTH INTO FAR NORTHERN MEXICO. CLOUDS AND
PRECIP WILL BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THE NORTHERN SIERRA LATE THIS
AFTERNOON...WITH SNOW LEVELS CRASHING DOWN QUICKLY AFTER 5PM AS THE
COLD FRONT MARCHES THROUGH THE AREA. THE QUICKNESS OF THIS SYSTEM
WILL KEEP SNOW AMOUNTS IN THE SIERRA FROM GETTING OUT OF HAND...BUT
THERE WILL MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WITH 2 INCHES PER HOUR AT TIMES
WILL BE LIKELY AT PASS LEVEL.

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY STILL LOOKS GOOD OVERALL FOR THE TAHOE
BASIN...WITH 3 TO 6 INCHES TOTAL IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS AND
GENERALLY 2 TO 4 INCHES AROUND THE LAKE. LESSER AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE
EXPECTED NORTH AND SOUTH OF TAHOE...WITH A FEW INCHES IN THE HIGHER
ELEVATIONS OF LASSEN...PLUMAS...AND MONO COUNTIES. SPILLOVER WITH
THIS INITIAL FRONT WILL BE MEAGER...ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOW TAKING A
MORE SOUTHERLY TRACK AND RIDGETOP FLOW WILL BE MORE SOUTH THAN WEST.

THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR UP TO AN INCH OR SO OF NEW SNOW FOR THE
RENO-CARSON CITY AREAS...ESPECIALLY BETWEEN 8PM-11PM AS THE COLD
FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE AREA. SNOW LEVELS WILL DROP TO VALLEY FLOORS
THIS EVENING...ALTHOUGH BEST ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE ABOVE 5000 FEET
WITH MUCH LESS ON THE VALLEY FLOORS. AREAS NORTH OF RENO TOWARD
SUSANVILLE...GERLACH AND CEDARVILLE COULD SEE UP TO TWO INCHES THIS
EVENING WITH BETTER SPILLOVER BETWEEN 5PM AND 8PM.

AS FOR FRIDAY MORNING...LATEST NAM/SREF ARE SHOWING POTENTIAL FOR
ANOTHER SHOT OF SNOW IN NORTHEASTERN CA AND WESTERN NV. THERE IS A
SECONDARY COLD FRONT IN THE MSLP AND 700MB FIELDS...WHICH WOULD
CAUSE LOW LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND LIFT IN AN ALREADY MOIST AND
UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT. THIS COULD REALLY GET THE CONVECTIVE SNOW
SHOWERS GOING STRONG EARLY FRIDAY.

THIS WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT AROUND THE MORNING COMMUTE...BETWEEN 5AM AND
8AM...SO PEOPLE SHOULD ALLOW EXTRA TIME FOR MORNING TRAVEL JUST IN
CASE. FORECAST CONFIDENCE ON THIS EVENT IS LOW...WITH THE LOCATION
AND INTENSITY OF MESOSCALE BANDS CHANGING FROM RUN TO RUN. COULD BE
ANYWHERE FROM RENO NORTH TO SUSANVILLE...SO CONFIDENCE IS NOT HIGH
ENOUGH TO ISSUE A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AT THIS TIME...BUT IF WE
GET A QUICK INCH OR TWO OF SNOW FOR THE MORNING COMMUTE IT COULD
HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT TO THE AREA. ONCOMING SHIFTS WILL NEED TO
MONITOR THIS POTENTIAL VERY CLOSELY. WILL HIGHLIGHT THE POTENTIAL IN
THE WEATHER GRAPHIC ON OUR WEATHER.GOV HOMEPAGE AND FACEBOOK PROFILE.

RIDGING BUILDS BACK INTO THE AREA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND
SATURDAY...WITH CLEAR COLD CONDITIONS UNDER NORTHERLY FLOW ALOFT.
HOON

SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY...

A WEAKER SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL MAKE ITS WAY ONSHORE OVER THE US
WEST COAST BEGINNING ON SATURDAY EVENING AND WILL CROSS INTO WRN NV
BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON. MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN RATHER GOOD AGREEMENT WITH
TIMING AND MAGNITUDE OF THE TROF PASSAGE. MOISTURE WILL BE LIMITED
WITH THIS SYSTEM BUT STILL MAY PROVIDE AROUND 2+ INCHES IN SOME OF
THE HIGHER SIERRA PEAKS AND LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS ON WRN NV VALLEYS BY
SUNDAY MORNING. MAIN CHANGES TO THE FORECAST INVOLVED INCREASING
RIDGE WINDS OVER THE SIERRA AND PEAKS IN MONO CO DUE TO A 700 MB JET
STREAK MAKING ITS WAY SOUTH THROUGH THE SIERRA LATE SATURDAY NIGHT
INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING WITH WIND GUSTS OF 50 TO 60 MPH POSSIBLE
BEFORE QUICKLY DIMINISHING BY SUNDAY EVENING. OTHERWISE COOL
TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE WITH HIGHS ON SUNDAY IN THE LOW 40S FOR
WRN NV AND MID TO UPPER 30S IN THE SIERRA. OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL
GENERALLY BE IN THE TEENS IN THE SIERRA AND LOW 20S OVER WESTERN
NEVADA. FUENTES


.LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...

LITTLE CHANGE TO EXTENDED GRIDS AS MODELS STILL IN AGREEMENT MONDAY
INTO TUESDAY BEFORE TWO CAMPS EMERGE TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE
UNCERTAINTY
. THE GFS/GEM WANT TO BRING ADDITIONAL ENERGY INTO THE
WEST BY MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK WHILE THE 00Z/12Z DETERMINISTIC ECMWF
(THE EC ENSEMBLE NOT AVAILABLE AT WFO LEVEL) AND UKMET WANT TO DROP
ENERGY WELL OFF THE COAST WITH A RIDGE DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHWEST
CONUS AHEAD OF THE ENERGY. WITH SUPPORT SPLIT I CANNOT LEAN EITHER
WAY AND WILL HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE FENCE FOR NOW. SORRY I CANNOT DO
BETTER...BUT ATMOSPHERIC CHAOS WILL RULE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

AS FAR AS FORECAST IMPACTS...THIS WILL MAINLY AFFECT TEMPERATURES
THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT WITH THE WETTER AND CLOUDIER GFS BEING MUCH
WARMER FOR LOWS THAN THE DRY/RIDGY ECMWF. BY THE TIME WE GET TO
WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...THE POSSIBLE EFFECTS TO THE FORECAST
INCREASE TO BOTH TEMPERATURE (ESPECIALLY LOWS) AND PRECIPITATION
CHANCES. THE 12Z GFS TRIES TO BRING AN UPPER LOW TO THE CALIFORNIA
COAST WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FOR INCREASING CHANCES OF
PRECIP FOR THE SIERRA AND FAR WESTERN CWA UNDER DEFORMATION ALOFT.
HOWEVER...THE GEFS HEIGHT SPREAD IS HUGE FOR MASSIVE UNCERTAINTY SO
I WOULD NOT BANK ON THE 12Z GFS SOLUTION ESPECIALLY WITH THE ECMWF
PUTTING THE LOW OVER 1000 MILES FURTHER WEST FOR DRY CONDITIONS.
SNYDER
&&

.AVIATION...

STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE TODAY AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING UPPER
LEVEL TROUGH. THE BEST GRADIENTS WILL OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON AND
EVENING AS SURFACE LOW DEEPENS OVER NV. WIDESPREAD SURFACE GUSTS
35-40KT AND SOUTHWEST RIDGE GUSTS 80-90 KTS WILL SUPPORT TURBULENCE
DOWNWIND OF THE SIERRA INTO WESTERN NEVADA INTO THIS EVENING.

WINDS WILL DECREASE QUICKLY BEHIND THE COLD FRONT WITH ATTENTION
THEN TURNING TO PRECIPITATION. SNOW WILL ARRIVE NORTHERN SIERRA AND
AREAS NORTH OF I-80 (INCLUDING KTVL AND KTRK) AROUND 23-00Z...INTO
WESTERN NV (INCLUDING KRNO-KLOL) 01Z-04Z...AND THEN SOUTHEAST TO A
KBIH-KTPH-KWMC LINE BY 08Z-10Z.

KRNO...QUICK BAND OF SHOWERS WILL TURN TO ALL SNOW BEFORE
DIMINISHING BEHIND FRONT. RELATIVELY WARM CONDITIONS (TEMPERATURES
IN THE 30S AND LOWER 40S) WILL PRECLUDE ACCUMULATION ON THE RUNWAY.
MAIN ISSUE WILL BE A PERIOD OF REDUCED VISIBILITY/CIGS IN SNOW
SHOWERS THIS EVENING AND GUSTY WEST-NORTHWEST WINDS WITH FRONTAL
PASSAGE. THERE COULD BE A SECOND PERIOD OF -SN FRIDAY MORNING BEFORE
SUNRISE AS THE MAIN UPPER LOW MOVES OVERHEAD. WITH AIR AND PAVEMENT
TEMPS FALLING TO OR BELOW FREEZING THERE COULD BE A LIGHT ACCUM
(HALF INCH OR LESS) ON UNTREATED SURFACES.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY - HANFORD CA
238 PM PDT THU NOV 3 2011

.SYNOPSIS...
AN APPROACHING FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA THIS
EVENING WITH INCREASING CLOUDS AND A CHANCE OF RAIN SHOWERS TO THE
VALLEY AND MOUNTAIN SNOW SHOWERS THROUGH FRIDAY. ANOTHER ROUND OF
SHOWERS IS POSSIBLE IN THE AREA LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY. MUCH
COOLER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY THROUGH EARLY
NEXT WEEK.

&&

.DISCUSSION...DELIGHTFUL FALL WEATHER IS UPON US THIS AFTERNOON...
BUT A COLD FRONT WILL COME ALONG AND USHER IN A WINTRY CHANGE BY
FRIDAY MORNING. THE COLD FRONT SHOWS UP QUITE WELL ON THE LATEST
SATELLITE IMAGERY...STRETCHING FROM SPOKANE TO NEAR REDDING THIS
AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH MOISTURE WITH IT IS RATHER LIMITED...IT WILL
BRING SOME SHOWERS TO MUCH OF THE CWA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
KERN COUNTY DESERT TONIGHT. THE UPPER LOW ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
FRONT IS STILL CENTERED ABOUT 500 MILES OR SO OFF THE OREGON COAST
AND IT...TOO...WILL TRACK SOUTHEASTWARD AND BE DIRECTLY OVER THE
CENTRAL CA INTERIOR FRIDAY AFTERNOON. SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS
PLENTY OF CELLULAR LOOKING CUMULUS UNDERNEATH THIS LOW WHICH IS
INDICATIVE OF VERY COLD AIR ALOFT. AS THE UPPER LOW APPROACHES
FROM THE NORTHWEST LATER TONIGHT...THE WEST SLOPES OF THE SIERRA
MAINLY NORTH OF KINGS CANYON WILL BE IN A REGION OF VERY FAVORABLE
OROGRAPHICS THANKS TO THE COMBINATION OF A 120+ JET AND STRONG
COLD ADVECTION. THE MODELS ARE ALSO SLOWING THIS SYSTEM DOWN A BIT
AND GENERATING SLIGHTLY HIGHER QPF AS A RESULT...AT LEAST HIGH
ENOUGH TO WARRANT THE ISSUANCE OF A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY NORTH
OF KINGS CANYON FOR TONIGHT. (FOR DETAILS...PLEASE SEE THE LATEST
SFOWSWHNX...WWUS46)

MUCH OF THE WEST SIDE AND SOUTH END OF THE SJ VLY WILL BE RAIN
SHADOWED UNTIL THE COLD FRONT PASSES AND WINDS TURN INTO THE NW.
THIS MAY NOT HAPPEN UNTIL THE PREDAWN HOURS FRIDAY. IN ITS WAKE...
TEMPERATURES WILL NOT LIKELY RECOVER VERY MUCH AS COLDER AIR
POURS INTO THE REGION. NUMEROUS SHOWERS WILL LINGER OVER THE
MOUNTAINS FRIDAY AFTERNOON BUT BECOME MORE ISOLATED OVER THE
LOWER ELEVATIONS. IN ADDITION...TEMPERATURES THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL
CA INTERIOR WILL BE A GOOD 10 TO 20 DEGREES COLDER FRIDAY AFTERNOON
COMPARED TO TODAY.

SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH OVER THE MOUNTAINS BY FRIDAY EVENING AS THE
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH EXITS INTO THE GREAT BASIN. YET...LOW CLOUDS
WILL LIKELY LINGER ALONG THE WEST SLOPES OF THE SIERRA...THE NORTH
FACING SLOPES OF THE TEHACHAPI MOUNTAINS AND THE EAST SIDE AND
SOUTH END OF THE SJ VLY THROUGH AT LEAST SATURDAY MORNING.
OTHERWISE...SHORT WAVE RIDGING ALOFT WILL BRING US A BREAK FROM
WET WEATHER SATURDAY WITH TEMPERATURES REMAINING WELL BELOW NORMAL.

IN THE MEANTIME...ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL APPROACH FROM
THE NORTHWEST. THIS NEXT SYSTEM LOOKS AS THOUGH IT WILL BE A BIT
WETTER BUT NOT QUITE AS COLD AND BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF SNOW TO
THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE SIERRA WITH A GOOD CHANCE OF SHOWERS
ELSEWHERE SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY.

DRY WEATHER AND A MODEST WARMING TREND IS SLATED FOR EARLY NEXT
WEEK AS AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDS OVER CA. BEYOND TUESDAY...
THE MODELS ARE POLARIZED AND CONFIDENCE IS VERY LOW AS TO WHAT WILL
HAPPEN. IF THE GFS IS RIGHT...ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL BRING
A RETURN OF WET AND UNSEASONABLY COOL WEATHER TO THE CENTRAL CA
INTERIOR DURING THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE
ECM FORECASTS AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE TO REMAIN OVER
CA WITH A CONTINUATION OF DRY WEATHER AND MILDER THAN NORMAL TEMPS.
UNTIL THE MODELS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...WE ARE FAVORING THE
MORE RELIABLE ECM SOLN.
 
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Kings Canyon south no snow 8-12 NOV

Mammoth north forecaster thinks will get snow and expected date keeps moving away... not sure what day 9th thru 12th or how much.


5 NOV 8AM READ NEXT POST .... THE FORECASTERS FLIPPED ABOUT NEXT WEEKEND AND NOW ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT WHETHER IT WILL BE A GOOD SNOW STORM OR NOT.
 
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YOU read this and decide

RENO forecaster says this storm 9-12 NOV too early to determine. GIVES 30% CHANCE

HANFORD forecaster says significant percipitation. THATS 70% CHANCE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV

248 AM PDT SAT NOV 5 2011


EXPECT A SLOW WARMING TREND TOWARD NEAR NORMAL WITH RIDGE OVERHEAD
TUE-THU.8-10 NOV HAVE REMOVED ANY CHANCE OF PRECIP TUES THROUGH THURSDAY BASED ON
THE LATEST MODELS. GEFS DOES SHOW POTENTIAL OF PRECIP THU
AFTERNOON...BUT IT SEEMS OVERLY AGGRESSIVE AND PREFER USING THE EC
ENSEMBLE WHICH SHOWS LARGER SPREAD WITH MOST MEMBERS SIMILAR TO OR
SLOWER THAN CURRENT GFS/EC. DO BRING IN CHC OF PRECIP THU NIGHT INTO
FRI...BUT KEPT THEM 30 PCT OR LOWER FOR NOW WITH GREATEST CHCS IN
THE SIERRA. IF MODELS DO COME IN BETTER AGREEMENT FOR IMPACTS TO BE
FELT LATE WEEK...WE WILL NEED TO ADJUST THESE UPWARD ON FUTURE
SHIFTS. WALLMANN


HANFORD

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY - HANFORD CA348 AM PDT SAT NOV 5 2011


UPPER RIDGE WILL BUILD IN OVER THE AREA ON TUESDAY 8 NOV WITH A GRADUAL
WARM UP TO NEAR NORMAL VALUES FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. SEASONAL
TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY WITH HIGHS NEAR 70 IN
THE SJV. BOTH THE GFS AND THE ECM ARE DEVELOPING A CLOSED LOW IN
THE EPAC BY WED WHICH WILL BUMP UP THE RIDGE OVER THE REGION. THE
RIDGE WILL SLIDE EAST AND THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE OVER THE
AREA ON FRIDAY 11 NOV . THE ECM IS SIGNIFICANTLY WETTER THAN THE GFS...BUT
BOTH ARE PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION OVER THE FA FRIDAY
AND SATURDAY 12 NOV . THE EXACT TIMING OF THE SYSTEM
REMAINS UNCERTAIN AND

WILL KEEP IN CHANCE POPS FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. WILL FOCUS ON
INTENSITY AND TIMING OF THE WEEKEND SYSTEM FOR THE NEXT FEW MODEL
RUNS.
 
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RENO forecaster now saying will be "WET" between THURS-MON 10-13 NOV

HANFORD focusing on current storm. Says all done by 10 AM SUNDAY 6 nov
 
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RENO forecaster still saying will be "WET" between THURS-MON 10-13 NOV with coldest wettest part of the storm at the end

HANFORD cutting storm estimates from modererate to some moisture?


BOTH forecasters unsure when/where the cold front will meet up with the moisture and cause the dumping.
 

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Wet is good. We need some paste, not this poofy light stuff that just fell all over everything. I hope it rains on this stuff before the real storms start.
 

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Los Angeles says first storm Friday 11 NOV 4-8 inches at 7000 feet in LA area mountains.

Then goes on to say bigger storm SAT-SUN but did not give estimates.

I like the HANFORD statement tonight.

RENO guy is still NOT SURE


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY - HANFORD CA
903 PM PST SUN NOV 6 2011

.SYNOPSIS...
SCATTERED SHOWERS IN THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AND FOOTHILLS ALONG
WITH LIGHT SNOW IN THE SIERRA NEVADA WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THIS
EVENING. PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES WILL PREVAIL UNTIL MID-WEEK AS A RIDGE
OF HIGH PRESSURE SETS UP OVER THE REGION.

&&

.DISCUSSION...PRECIPITATION HAS ENDED OVER THE FORECAST AREA AS
THE LOW AND TROUGH HEAD TO THE EAST. CLOUDS WILL HOLD ON OVER THE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY IN THE POST FRONTAL NORTHWEST FLOW INTO MONDAY
AFTERNOON. FORECAST MODELS CONTINUE TO BRING RIDGING INTO
CALIFORNIA FOR MUCH OF THE UPCOMING WEEK AND THEN BY LATER


THURSDAY AND FRIDAY 10-11 NOV BRING THE FIRST OF TWO SEEMINGLY SIGNIFICANT
STORM SYSTEMS INTO THE REGION.


THE LATEST RUN OF THE GFS MODEL IS
STARTING TO MATCH UP WITH THE EARLIER RUN OF THE ECMWF WHICH

INDICATES A VERY STRONG AND COLD STORM FOR SUNDAY 13 NOV . THIS WILL NEED
TO BE CLOSELY WATCHED AS THE POTENTIAL FOR A BIG WINTER STORM IS
REAL.


MUCH MORE TO FOLLOW ON THIS LATER. IN THE MEANTIME A WARMING
AND DRY FIRST FOUR DAYS OF THE UPCOMING WEEK
 

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Storm THUR-FRIDAY epicenter is KERN County ... not expected to go inland ??? Very rare SOCAL November storm may dump at coast or ocean prior to Sierras BUT if it goes inland it will dump lots of snow.

Los Angeles television CH5 weatherman says expect 2 plus feet at 6000 feet by Saturday LOS Angeles area mountains and NOTHING except chances of showers for the SUN-MON storm to 1-3 rain on the flat land and 2-8 inches rain at the foothills

Storm SUN-TUES epicenter FRESNO County ... and intensifying (so says Hanford NWS)!!! BUT BUT epicenter will probably change AND storm won't make it above HWY 50 as of right now (so says RENO NWS)

Snow levels to 5500 feet at least ONE FOOT in KINGS CANYON area for SUN storm.

Basically I am reading what the National weatherr service is forcasting. What is missing for me is the 3rd person at mammothweather.com nicknamed the DWEEB report. He is typically all over these storms but not this year ... so far.

These "forecasters" at the NWS run computer models and comment on the results. Since the different models "don't agree" or give the similar results the forecasters do not commit to a specific forecast and state it is "uncertain".
 
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MAMMOTHWEATHER.COM COMMENT !!!

Overall….this pattern for Mammoth is a lot to do about nothing….. The upper flow is strongly split out in the eastern pacific and the next system will spread its wrath upon the folks in So-Cal like the last one, only this time this storm looks wetter for them. Yea this is a La Nina winter, however, as you can see, there is lots that happen in a winter like this. The MJO is still active and will be moving into a position more favorable for our area later next week.

For the time being…..The global models for Mammoth show a nice few days ahead, followed by mainly a coastal storm

Friday into Friday night that will spread heavy rain for the central coast. However, very light snowfall is expected along the eastern slopes of the Sierra and for Mammoth as well. At this time I am not looking for much more then a few inches here at most. Southern Ca will get clobbered along the coastal plain.

The next upstream system for Sunday is an inside slider type storm so expect some wind and maybe some flurries, maybe not. Otherwise it looks pretty dry for the weekend at this time. Check back later…

This is a changing situation as the models having a hard time with the weekend forecast
 

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Thanks Don. Keep those reports coming. Hwy 4 & Hwy 108 rider here.

I have relatives in the Bay Area with a condo in Bear Valley across the street from the gas station , Ski-Doo dealer and Fire Station.


Forecasters are all over the place or uncommited to what the next 5 days will bring.

Most agree there will be lots of wind.

Snow elevation estimates start at 5500 feet and go to 7500 feet.

Mammoth weather report who is very accurate says it will be measured in inches.

The confusion /uncertainty is the low pressure bringing the cold/water may dip down all the way to BAJA from the ocean and then go inland.

Not vwery common event.
 

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MOISTURE FOR STORM IS DUMPING INTO THE OCEAN

Possible scattered showers now thru WEDNESDAY with little snow above 7000 feet

Some storming up by SHASTA.


noaaport_loop.php


http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/noaaport_loop.php?PATH=/var/www/leads_images/satellite/EP1/IR/&NUMBLOOP=10
 
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Very large storm cell from the ocean to OWEN Lake on the 395. FRIday 1130pm


Seems it is raining right now at 7000 feet at Alta Sierra Wofford Heights but snowing at 9000 ft around Johnsondale north towards Whitney

Be interesting if it hits the Rubies.
 
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